[7.0][stock] "serial number" wrong wording -> should be "lot number"

[Raphaël Valyi - http://www.akretion.com]

Hello,

I think the wording "serial number" in v7 is wrong and confusing. I think what we have in v7 is the same thing as before and is still lot number management, not serial numbers.

After wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_number "a serial number is a unique code assigned for identification of a single unit"
Instead the numbers in OpenERP are associated to several units, that means they are are "lot numbers" instead.

I think OpenERP is hard enough to get working, the less its wording confuse people, the better.

Hope to see this fixed.

[Davide Corio (enlightx-deactivatedaccount)]

the same item can have a serial number AND a lot number...AFAIK

so +1

[Ana Juaristi Olalde (ajuaristio)]

Also +1

[Amit Bhavsar (Open ERP) (amb-openerp)]

Hello Raphaël Valyi,

Yes I agree with you. As per my opinion, It's should be "lot number".

So before implementing this, we had more discuss on this Issue. That's why I am setting this as an "Opinion" so we can get more suggestion on this.

Thanks and more suggestions are welcomed!

[Alan Lord (theopensourcerer)]

+1.

In the UK it tends to be called "batch number" but "lot" is OK too.

Serial Numbers are unique to a specific individual item.

My understanding of OpenERP 6 was that "lot numbers" can be used either across a group of items or individually, so its use is very ambiguous. It could be a lot number, it could be a serial number. But it can't be both at the same time ;-)

[Nhomar - Vauxoo (nhomar)]

+1 totally.

2012/12/13 Alan Lord <email address hidden>

> +1.
>
> In the UK it tends to be called "batch number" but "lot" is OK too.
>
> Serial Numbers are unique to a specific individual item.
>
> My understanding of OpenERP 6 was that "lot numbers" can be used either
> across a group of items or individually, so its use is very ambiguous.
> It could be a lot number, it could be a serial number. But it can't be
> both at the same time ;-)
>
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> Title:
> [7.0][stock] "serial number" wrong wording -> should be "lot number"
>
> Status in OpenERP Addons (modules):
> Opinion
>
> Bug description:
> Hello,
>
> I think the wording "serial number" in v7 is wrong and confusing. I
> think what we have in v7 is the same thing as before and is still lot
> number management, not serial numbers.
>
> After wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_number "a serial
> number is a unique code assigned for identification of a single unit"
> Instead the numbers in OpenERP are associated to several units, that
> means they are are "lot numbers" instead.
>
> I think OpenERP is hard enough to get working, the less its wording
> confuse people, the better.
>
>
> Hope to see this fixed.
>
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[BrowseInfo (browseinfo-in)]

lot number will be good.

Mine ++1 :)

Thanks!

[Cristian Salamea (ovnicraft)]

Lot number is ok.

Regards,

[Peter Langenberg (peter-langenberg)]

Lotnummer +1

[Erwin van der Ploeg (BAS Solutions) (erwin-bassolutions-deactivatedaccount)]

Lot number +1

[Fabrice (OpenERP) (fhe)]

I had seen this indeed. +1

[Nicolas JEUDY (njeudy-tuxservices)]

+1 lot number

[Amit Parik (amit-parik)]

Me too... +1

Now it's 10+1 ;-).

Thanks

[Eric Caudal - www.elico-corp.com (elicoidal)]

+1 lot number

[Raphaël Valyi - http://www.akretion.com (rvalyi)]

OMG!, this is historical, we are probably going to see a bug flagged as "opinion" actually getting fixed. Well let's see ;-)

[snook (snook)]

+1 "serial number" is NOT a "lot/batch number".

As defined above: "a serial number is a unique code assigned for identification of a single unit" and that is not what we have in OpenERP.

[Davide Corio (enlightx-deactivatedaccount)]

Just happened to me again.
A customer of ours needs to manage production lots composed of items that have unique serial items.

They say it's very common in electronics, mechanical engineering, etc

[Nhomar - Vauxoo (nhomar)]

[phone]0000000

Lot number

Written from my android
On Mar 26, 2013 1:41 PM, "Davide Corio - agilebg.com" <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> Just happened to me again.
> A customer of ours needs to manage production lots composed of items that
> have unique serial items.
>
> They say it's very common in electronics, mechanical engineering, etc
>
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> Title:
> [7.0][stock] "serial number" wrong wording -> should be "lot number"
>
> Status in OpenERP Addons (modules):
> Opinion
>
> Bug description:
> Hello,
>
> I think the wording "serial number" in v7 is wrong and confusing. I
> think what we have in v7 is the same thing as before and is still lot
> number management, not serial numbers.
>
> After wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_number "a serial
> number is a unique code assigned for identification of a single unit"
> Instead the numbers in OpenERP are associated to several units, that
> means they are are "lot numbers" instead.
>
> I think OpenERP is hard enough to get working, the less its wording
> confuse people, the better.
>
>
> Hope to see this fixed.
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/openobject-addons/+bug/1089879/+subscriptions
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[Mark van Deursen (Neobis) (mark-neobis)]

+1

Serial numbers are definitely for individual items.
Lot numbers are for a collection of 1 or more items collected in a Lot.

In practice we've seen lots contain other lots aswel. So a lot could be a collection of other lots (lot numbers) and/or items (serial numbers).

[sachitb (sachit-baliga)]

I agree with Mark and many others above.

Serial number is a unique identifier for a product in a lot.

This would be a huge feature for product manufacturers or system integrator s who wish to track the warranty on the final assembled product based on sale date and warranty term. The RMA module should also be able to track product by the serial number for product returns or warranty repairs. The serial number would be a subset of a batch or lot #. It would be nice for the customers to check warranty on a product on the customer portal by inputting the serial number

If it is a manufacturing order we should be able to generate a serial number range based on the number of products manufactured/assembled in that batch.

We are a system integrator and am currently evaluating openERP 7 for use in our business. The lack of serialization has been a major downside.

[Raphaël Valyi - http://www.akretion.com (rvalyi)]

Hello sachitb,

In fact both serial numbers and RMA just works as community modules, so
that's even more a reason for applying the proper wording to the features
of the official modules which are lots and not serial.

In fact it's still a but buried in the 6.0 extra addons branch (as
product_serial module) despite it's used in production for 1 year on 6.1
now.

The integrated RMA module is from this project:
https://launchpad.net/openerp-rma

An associate of the company where we put that in production made what is
just the most complete testimony about what means an OpenERP implementation
around;
http://people.via.ecp.fr/~alexis/openerp/

And yes, that's still a real shame to this the wrong wording continuing
here despite the consensus to say it's wrong.

Regards.

On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:54 PM, sachitb <email address hidden> wrote:

> I agree with Mark and many others above.
>
> Serial number is a unique identifier for a product in a lot.
>
> This would be a huge feature for product manufacturers or system
> integrator s who wish to track the warranty on the final assembled
> product based on sale date and warranty term. The RMA module should also
> be able to track product by the serial number for product returns or
> warranty repairs. The serial number would be a subset of a batch or lot
> #. It would be nice for the customers to check warranty on a product on
> the customer portal by inputting the serial number
>
> If it is a manufacturing order we should be able to generate a serial
> number range based on the number of products manufactured/assembled in
> that batch.
>
> We are a system integrator and am currently evaluating openERP 7 for use
> in our business. The lack of serialization has been a major downside.
>
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>
> Title:
> [7.0][stock] "serial number" wrong wording -> should be "lot number"
>
> Status in OpenERP Addons (modules):
> Opinion
>
> Bug description:
> Hello,
>
> I think the wording "serial number" in v7 is wrong and confusing. I
> think what we have in v7 is the same thing as before and is still lot
> number management, not serial numbers.
>
> After wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_number "a serial
> number is a unique code assigned for identification of a single unit"
> Instead the numbers in OpenERP are associated to several units, that
> means they are are "lot numbers" instead.
>
> I think OpenERP is hard enough to get working, the less its wording
> confuse people, the better.
>
>
> Hope to see this fixed.
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/openobject-addons/+bug/1089879/+subscriptions
>

[vivekananthan (vivekjustthink)]

The wording should be Lot number as it accepts multiple qty on a lot. so +1 for "Lot Number" instead of serial number

[hwinkel (hw-travelping)]

Discussed for half a year now, is there any conclusion how to proceed with the serial number feature? We just hit this roadblock by again having expectations not met. We are a company manufacturing PCs which is one of the classic examples in OpenERP but managing serial numbers for the final product seems not possible? If the feature renamed to lot number whats happens to the missing functionality of serial numbers in 7.0?

[wizzor (visa-parviainen)]

This is taking longer than a simple change in wording should.

To me it is obvious that "lot number" should be used instead.

[Sixto Farfán (2-info-3)]

Management of serial numbers of products in openerp 7 is a major inconvenience, we are consultants of systems, we use openerp 7. In the worst case it will develop but I imagine it will take some time to do it. Unless you already have a company that has developed and we would like it if you can help financially to resolve this issue.

[Rami (rami-helal)]

After reading all the above comments, - which I totally agree - I couldn't get the final decision of the community! And if it is OK to modify the module, when can we see the modified version?