OK, an update ... The above config changing everything worked with the above errors tho?! Here is what happens when i do not update the new moniker for glance, cinder, nova etc.... (which makes no sense to me?) ==> /var/log/kolla/octavia/octavia-api.log <== 2024-02-01 12:36:03.842 733 WARNING openstack [None req-366da871-ab3b-4e98-9780-0f29a93cfe14 - e5b9296fbd9e4d9ea5e925780c64690f - - default default] Disabling service 'block-storage': Encountered an exception attempting to process config for project 'cinder' (service type 'block-storage'): no such option valid_interfaces in group [cinder]: oslo_config.cfg.NoSuchOptError: no such option valid_interfaces in group [cinder] 2024-02-01 12:36:03.843 733 WARNING openstack [None req-366da871-ab3b-4e98-9780-0f29a93cfe14 - e5b9296fbd9e4d9ea5e925780c64690f - - default default] Disabling service 'compute': Encountered an exception attempting to process config for project 'nova' (service type 'compute'): no such option valid_interfaces in group [nova]: oslo_config.cfg.NoSuchOptError: no such option valid_interfaces in group [nova] 2024-02-01 12:36:03.843 733 WARNING openstack [None req-366da871-ab3b-4e98-9780-0f29a93cfe14 - e5b9296fbd9e4d9ea5e925780c64690f - - default default] Disabling service 'image': Encountered an exception attempting to process config for project 'glance' (service type 'image'): no such option valid_interfaces in group [glance]: oslo_config.cfg.NoSuchOptError: no such option valid_interfaces in group [glance] 2024-02-01 12:36:03.884 737 WARNING openstack [None req-4b65bd1b-3e6d-437d-a879-c08a1eaf225a - e5b9296fbd9e4d9ea5e925780c64690f - - default default] Disabling service 'block-storage': Encountered an exception attempting to process config for project 'cinder' (service type 'block-storage'): no such option valid_interfaces in group [cinder]: oslo_config.cfg.NoSuchOptError: no such option valid_interfaces in group [cinder] 2024-02-01 12:36:03.884 737 WARNING openstack [None req-4b65bd1b-3e6d-437d-a879-c08a1eaf225a - e5b9296fbd9e4d9ea5e925780c64690f - - default default] Disabling service 'compute': Encountered an exception attempting to process config for project 'nova' (service type 'compute'): no such option valid_interfaces in group [nova]: oslo_config.cfg.NoSuchOptError: no such option valid_interfaces in group [nova] 2024-02-01 12:36:03.885 737 WARNING openstack [None req-4b65bd1b-3e6d-437d-a879-c08a1eaf225a - e5b9296fbd9e4d9ea5e925780c64690f - - default default] Disabling service 'image': Encountered an exception attempting to process config for project 'glance' (service type 'image'): no such option valid_interfaces in group [glance]: oslo_config.cfg.NoSuchOptError: no such option valid_interfaces in group [glance] 2024-02-01 12:36:03.994 733 INFO octavia.api.v2.controllers.member [None req-366da871-ab3b-4e98-9780-0f29a93cfe14 - e5b9296fbd9e4d9ea5e925780c64690f - - default default] Sending create Member 4a551e43-42b8-49ea-a989-42a28c1466ef to provider amphora Why when i dont provide this is it saying this? Unrelated, I also see this: I also saw this Error in the logs: ==> /var/log/kolla/octavia/octavia-api-error.log <== 2024-02-01 12:14:01.370602 /var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/octavia/db/repositories.py:1017: SAWarning: Coercing Subquery object into a select() for use in IN(); please pass a select() construct explicitly 2024-02-01 12:14:01.370654 filter(models.LoadBalancer.id.in_(lb_subquery)).first()) 2024-02-01 12:14:01.373214 /var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/octavia/db/repositories.py:1017: SAWarning: SELECT statement has a cartesian product between FROM element(s) "pool" and FROM element "load_balancer". Apply join condition(s) between each element to resolve. 2024-02-01 12:14:01.373248 filter(models.LoadBalancer.id.in_(lb_subquery)).first()) Also, what about [certificates]? endpoint_type = internal or valid_interfaces = internal ? ᐧ On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 12:19 PM Noel Ashford