automagically decide whether or not to manage music [$50]

Bug #1178546 reported by Danielle Foré
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Noise
Confirmed
Wishlist
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Bug Description

Maybe instead of asking people to decide whether or not Noise will manage their music, we should just do it automatically depending on some conditions. This is designed to provide a sane, contextual default both for people who don't care and people who do. It's better for us to err on the side of caution since this can be a sensitive issue for some people.

If Noise is the default AND your music library is located at ~/Music, we take care of your music.

If Noise is not the default OR your music library is not located at ~/Music, we let whatever else from wherever else take care of it.

Changed in noise:
importance: Undecided → Wishlist
description: updated
Cody Garver (codygarver)
Changed in noise:
status: New → Confirmed
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Simeon (simeon5) wrote :

Is there any plan how music should be managed/kept?

Artistname/Album/Track.ogg?
What about compilations with tracky by several artists on one album?

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Cameron Norman (cameronnemo) wrote :

Simeon, Noise organizes the music folder by "Artist/Album/# - Track.codec" where # is the track number. Compilations are split up, by artist name.

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Simeon (simeon5) wrote :

Thanks for clarifying!
For albums by a single artist that makes total sense and its used by lots of other music managers as well.
But for compilation albums its just nonsense in my opinion. It has been buggin me since I started using iTunes way back :)

Maybe we as a community can have a discussion to change this?

Cody Garver (codygarver)
Changed in noise:
milestone: none → feature-future
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Danielle Foré (danrabbit) wrote :

Simeon,

Please feel free to file a separate bug report regarding how compilation albums are organized.

description: updated
Changed in noise:
importance: Wishlist → Medium
milestone: feature-future → isis-beta1
description: updated
description: updated
Changed in noise:
assignee: nobody → Victor Martinez (victored)
status: Confirmed → In Progress
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Shawn McTear (syst3mfailur3) wrote :

One suggestion is to add year to the album folder. Like track number, it shows order.

Artist/Year - Album/# - Track.codec

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jcinacio (jcinacio) wrote :

Regarding the original description, please DO make sure that ~/Music is not a symlink to other location.

Use case:
* User has a library on a secondary location that he manually organizes.
* For convenience, User creates a symlink on ~/Music -> /some/other/location
* User does not want the "Music" app to automatically manage this location

Cheers,

summary: - automagically decide whether or not to manage music
+ automagically decide whether or not to manage music [$50]
Changed in noise:
milestone: isis-beta1 → isis-beta2
Changed in noise:
milestone: freya-beta2 → none
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grz (grzgrz) wrote :

I don't think that Noise should automatically manage music if stored in ~/Music. I keep there my all music and I would be really, *really* angry if some app edits my Music directory structure and files' names.

Changed in noise:
assignee: Victor Martinez (victored) → nobody
status: In Progress → Confirmed
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Aneurin Hall (aneurin-hall) wrote :

If there was a way to set noise to just automatically add files that appear in ~/Music to a database, not show them if they disappear, and otherwise leave them alone I'd be pretty happy. I believe noise used to have this behaviour. I'm curious why it was taken out instead of tweaked or made into a user setting.

As it is now the itunes like behaviour forces me to keep two music folders: one that I've dumped my music to and the local one that noise can chew on. so far it's doubled up files and messed with my folder structure against my wishes. it's also lost file locations multiple times. these are recurring issues I had with itunes as well. This demonstrates the problem with hands on folder management and a persistent and implicitly trusted music database.

I'm not sure that there's even an argument for folder management while you can copy files out of noise or quickly navigate to their location with the context menu. If I want it done I don't trust a player I install a dedicated program like EasyTag because it has way more power and flexibility.

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Aneurin Hall (aneurin-hall) wrote :

actually, I was mistaken, it just added a bunch of .part files automatically. :D

Changed in noise:
milestone: none → loki-beta1
Cody Garver (codygarver)
Changed in noise:
importance: Medium → Wishlist
Changed in noise:
milestone: loki-beta1 → none
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