This is a shared, but not external router (so no NAT-ing). We allocate public v4/v6 to instance from it. Actually, we use it, as a "VPS" network (it's a network of admin user anyway) So, we have routers here, because we use v4 DHCP and metadata from it. To be more specific: [PROD][root(cc1:0)] <~> openstack network show Flat1 +---------------------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Field | Value | +---------------------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | admin_state_up | UP | | availability_zone_hints | | | availability_zones | nova | | created_at | 2020-07-01T22:59:47Z | | description | | | dns_domain | None | | id | fa55bfc7-ab42-4d97-987e-645cca7a0601 | | ipv4_address_scope | None | | ipv6_address_scope | None | | is_default | None | | is_vlan_transparent | None | | mtu | 1500 | | name | Flat1 | | port_security_enabled | True | | project_id | b48a9319a66e45f3b04cc8bb70e3113c | | provider:network_type | vlan | | provider:physical_network | vltrunk | | provider:segmentation_id | 719 | | qos_policy_id | None | | revision_number | 3 | | router:external | Internal | | segments | None | | shared | True | | status | ACTIVE | | subnets | 84b83375-85a3-4b8a-8656-50eec8fccc2e, a5a9991c-62f3-4f46-b1ef-e293dc0fb781 | | tags | | | updated_at | 2020-07-01T22:59:53Z | +---------------------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ for metadata, we use the qrouter based one, with static route on IPv4: [PROD][root(cc1:0)] <~> openstack subnet show Flat1-subnet-v4 +-------------------+-------------------------------------------------------------+ | Field | Value | +-------------------+-------------------------------------------------------------+ | allocation_pools | 193.224.218.1-193.224.218.250 | | cidr | 193.224.218.0/24 | | created_at | 2020-07-01T22:59:50Z | | description | | | dns_nameservers | 193.224.161.70, 193.224.161.86 | | enable_dhcp | True | | gateway_ip | 193.224.218.254 | | host_routes | destination='169.254.169.254/32', gateway='193.224.218.251' | | id | 84b83375-85a3-4b8a-8656-50eec8fccc2e | | ip_version | 4 | | ipv6_address_mode | None | | ipv6_ra_mode | None | | name | Flat1-subnet-v4 | | network_id | fa55bfc7-ab42-4d97-987e-645cca7a0601 | | project_id | b48a9319a66e45f3b04cc8bb70e3113c | | revision_number | 0 | | segment_id | None | | service_types | | | subnetpool_id | None | | tags | | | updated_at | 2020-07-01T22:59:50Z | +-------------------+-------------------------------------------------------------+ (don't be confused about the "Flat" naming.. it's a VLAN based network, it's just the name) Regards: Peter