Activity log for bug #1472704

Date Who What changed Old value New value Message
2015-07-08 16:58:47 Nell Jerram bug added bug
2015-07-08 16:59:07 Nell Jerram tags rfe
2015-07-08 17:13:00 Ed Harrison bug added subscriber Ed Harrison
2015-07-08 18:00:52 Paul Carver bug added subscriber Paul Carver
2015-07-08 18:21:16 Tobias Ford bug added subscriber Tobias Ford
2015-07-17 16:12:17 Kyle Mestery neutron: status New Confirmed
2015-07-17 16:12:39 Kyle Mestery bug added subscriber Carl Baldwin
2015-07-17 16:12:44 Kyle Mestery bug added subscriber Kyle Mestery
2015-07-28 13:26:51 OpenStack Infra neutron: status Confirmed In Progress
2015-07-28 13:26:51 OpenStack Infra neutron: assignee Neil Jerram (neil-jerram)
2015-10-14 17:00:46 Armando Migliaccio neutron: status In Progress Triaged
2015-10-23 10:34:10 Nell Jerram summary Support networks that work through routing instead of bridging Support L3-only networking
2015-10-23 12:12:48 OpenStack Infra neutron: status Triaged In Progress
2015-10-23 16:53:51 Armando Migliaccio neutron: status In Progress New
2015-10-23 16:54:01 Armando Migliaccio neutron: status New Triaged
2015-11-11 18:11:28 Carl Baldwin description This RFE bug describes and proposes a type of Neutron network in which connectivity between the VMs attached to that network is provided by L3 routing. This type of network provides full (subject to security policy) IP connectivity between VMs in that and other routed networks: v4 and v6, unicast and multicast; but it provides no L2 capability, except as required for this IP connectivity, plus correct operation of the ICMP, ARP and NDP protocols that exist to support IP. Therefore, this kind of network is suitable for VMs that only communicate over IP. Why would anyone want that? Compared to the other kinds of networks that provide connectivity at L2, its arguable benefits are that: - it is conceptually simpler, in that VM data is transported in a uniform way between a VM and its compute host, between compute hosts, and between the data center network and the outside world, without any encapsulation changes anywhere - as a practical consequence, it is easier to debug, using standard tools such as ping, traceroute, wireshark and tcpdump - its scale is not limited in the way that VLAN-based and VXLAN-based networks are, by the practical diameter of the physical underlying L2 network. FYI I started proposing/discussing this as a devref at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198439/, and lots more detail can be found there about how I think this could work. However, I understand that that is not the correct process, hence in principle starting again here as an RFE bug. This RFE bug describes and proposes a type of Neutron network in which connectivity between the VMs attached to that network is provided by L3 routing. This type of network provides full (subject to security policy) IP connectivity between VMs in that and other routed networks: v4 and v6, unicast and multicast; but it provides no L2 capability, except as required for this IP connectivity, plus correct operation of the ICMP, ARP and NDP protocols that exist to support IP. Therefore, this kind of network is suitable for VMs that only communicate over IP. Why would anyone want that? Compared to the other kinds of networks that provide connectivity at L2, its arguable benefits are that: - it is conceptually simpler, in that VM data is transported in a   uniform way between a VM and its compute host, between compute   hosts, and between the data center network and the outside world,   without any encapsulation changes anywhere - as a practical consequence, it is easier to debug, using standard   tools such as ping, traceroute, wireshark and tcpdump - its scale is not limited in the way that VLAN-based and VXLAN-based   networks are, by the practical diameter of the physical underlying   L2 network. FYI I started proposing/discussing this as a devref at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198439/, and lots more detail can be found there about how I think this could work. However, I understand that that is not the correct process, hence in principle starting again here as an RFE bug. NOTE: The above mentioned devref has been abandoned in favor of a spec here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238895/
2015-11-11 21:24:47 Armando Migliaccio neutron: importance Undecided Wishlist
2015-11-17 17:30:13 Armando Migliaccio marked as duplicate 1458890