Upgrade to 13.04 installs pulseaudio

[Carl]

Upgrading from 12.10 to 13.04 installs pulseaudio. This causes all kinds of audio issues for me. Removing pulseaudio fixes things. Here's what I've found in my dist-upgrade log files.

My apt.log file contains the following.

  new important dependency: pulseaudio:i386
  Installing pulseaudio as Recommends of xfce4-volumed

xfce4-volumed was installed with a clean 12.04 install and kept at the same version after the 12.10 upgrade. I'm assuming removing xfce4-volumed before upgrading to 13.04 would fix the problem. Not sure how this is done in the upgrade process itself though.

[Mario Limonciello (superm1)]

Does the new xfce4-volumed require pulseaudio to function? If not, the easiest fix will be to remove it from the recommends of xfce4-volumed and just allow pulseaudio to be pulled in by desktop (say xubuntu-desktop etc) metapackages instead. If it does require pulseaudio to function, we'll need to remove xfce4-volumed from mythbuntu-desktop and set up update-manager to remove it on upgrade somehow.

[Steve Dodier-Lazaro (sidi)]

I've no idea why on earth such a "recommends" exists in the Ubuntu package of xvd, since xvd is not supporting Pulseaudio and was never designed to support it. It should only ask that the GStreamer mixer plugin (and possibly xfce4-mixer) are installed, as far as I remember.

Obviously xvd is not maintained since years now, so it might be that the Xubuntu developers found out how to configure it to make it work with Pulseaudio. It was just not working back when it was written and so, xvd should never "require" so to speak Pulseaudio.

[Lionel Le Folgoc (mrpouit)]

I ported it to pulseaudio (Steve, maybe you don't remember but we discussed about that on #shimmer when you were online a few months ago). Since ubuntu uses pulseaudio by default almost everywhere, xfce4-volumed wasn't working well with it (mute issues, problematic detection of the default card, etc.). Xfce4-mixer >= 4.10 has volume keys' support, so people who hate pulseaudio can use it.

[Carl (cdhunter2)]

Just looking for an update on this. Would the proper solution for this be to have a 13.04 upgrage remove xfce4-volumed and install xfce4-mixer instead? I think that would work fine for my installs.

[Carl (cdhunter2)]

Just upgraded another system and pulseaudio was installed again. This time I removed (purged) xfce4-volumed before I did sudo do-release-upgrade. Digging into the apt.log file in /var/log/dist-upgrade shows the following.

        Installing pulseaudio as Recommends of gnome-settings-daemon
      Installing gnome-settings-daemon as Depends of gnome-control-center
    Installing gnome-control-center as Recommends of gnome-bluetooth
  new important dependency: gnome-bluetooth:i386
  Installing gnome-bluetooth as Recommends of network-manager-gnome

network-manager-gnome seems to be installed on my 12.10 systems.

[Thaddaeus Tintenfisch (thad-fisch-deactivatedaccount)]

According to comment #3, this is not a bug in the package xfce4-volumed.

[Carl (cdhunter2)]

Just upgraded my systems to 14.04 and pulseaudio was installed again. Here's what was in apt.log.

Installing pulseaudio as Recommends of unity-settings-daemon
Installing unity-settings-daemon as Depends of unity-control-center
Installing unity-control-center as Recommends of gnome-bluetooth

[Thomas Mashos (tgm4883)]

We really do appreciate you opening this ticket to help improve Mythbuntu, but it needs to be closed for a number of reasons. The biggest one is that upstream has moved on to a new version and believes this to be fixed. Could you please verify if this issue still exists in the latest version?

Please do not let the closing of this ticket dissuade you from opening a new ticket if this (or any other) problem occurs with the newer versions.