I installed the newest version of monkey. 1.9.0.2 and same results. I renamed the .monkeystudio files folder in Home, still no good. I had run MS from the terminal and got this: ** Warning: Successfully enabled plugin: AppDebug *** Warning: User wantn't to intall plugin: AStyle *** Warning: Successfully enabled plugin: ClassBrowser *** Warning: User wantn't to intall plugin: Ctags2Api *** Warning: Successfully enabled plugin: FileBrowser *** Warning: Successfully enabled plugin: FileWatcher *** Warning: Successfully enabled plugin: MessageBox *** Warning: User wantn't to intall plugin: MkSShell *** Warning: User wantn't to intall plugin: ProjectHeaders *** Warning: User wantn't to intall plugin: RegExpEditor *** Warning: Successfully enabled plugin: SearchAndReplace *** Warning: Successfully enabled plugin: Tools *** Warning: Successfully enabled plugin: UpdateChecker *** Warning: User wantn't to intall plugin: GNUMake *** Warning: Successfully enabled plugin: QtAssistant *** Warning: QObject: Cannot create children for a parent that is in a different thread. (Parent is qdesigner_internal::SignalSlotEditorPlugin(0xa995e60), parent's thread is QThread(0xa8b4c60), current thread is QThread(0xa3976f8) *** Warning: QObject::setParent: Cannot set parent, new parent is in a different thread *** Warning: QObject: Cannot create children for a parent that is in a different thread. (Parent is qdesigner_internal::BuddyEditorPlugin(0xa9a39c0), parent's thread is QThread(0xa8b4c60), current thread is QThread(0xa3976f8) *** Warning: QObject::setParent: Cannot set parent, new parent is in a different thread *** Warning: QObject: Cannot create children for a parent that is in a different thread. (Parent is qdesigner_internal::TabOrderEditorPlugin(0xa9b0430), parent's thread is QThread(0xa8b4c60), current thread is QThread(0xa3976f8) *** Warning: QObject::setParent: Cannot set parent, new parent is in a different thread *** Warning: Successfully enabled plugin: QtDesigner *** Warning: User wantn't to intall plugin: BeaverDebugger *** Warning: Successfully enabled plugin: PHP *** Warning: Successfully enabled plugin: Python *** Warning: Successfully enabled plugin: Irc *** Warning: Successfully enabled plugin: MakefileProject *** Warning: Successfully enabled plugin: PHP-Qt *** Warning: Successfully enabled plugin: PyQt *** Warning: Successfully enabled plugin: QMake *** Warning: Successfully enabled plugin: XUP Does it help? or no. i've not used the trace in a long while i will read up then send. ________________________________ From: PasNox