another messy bug report

[Garry Trethewey]

I suspect all of what I write below has already been reported in https://bugs.launchpad.net/menulibre and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/menulibre, but maybe something here will be useful.

Also there are a couple of potential workarounds that I've found &/or questions that might be useful.

So xubuntu Trusty, latest alacarte, latest MenuLibre.

Stage 1 test.
Menu now being converted from alacarte to menulibre.
Installed menulibre, and for every launcher & category, did:-
"save this launcher, so that menulibre “knows” about it, but the “save” arrow is not lit up. So we click any of the “Options” toggles at least once eg on → off, or off → on. (or as required) Then the save arrow is lit up. Click save."

Problems now.
1) the “hide from menus” button works a bit randomly. Some things change as I want, others don't change at all in spite of “Hide From Menus” on/off, save, quit.

2) Some things I can't delete, &/or keep reappearing

I note in
http://wiki.smdavis.us/doku.php?id=menulibre_usage
Saving
If the user does not have write access to that entry item, a new menu item is created for that user, overriding any system preset.

So I wonder if some of these are things that I don't have write access to. They tend to be things in my “System” category, lots are also accessible via “Settings Manager.”

Nepomuk Backup & Cleaner might be in that category as whenever I delete them from System they reappear both in System and in Accessories

In System category, About Me, Accessibility and Additional Drivers never show up in the menu no matter what, and can't be deleted either. So I guess that explains why I don't get other copies of them appearing.

But I can't see why Okteta, KWrite, K3B are so protected.

Executable files not having write permission I can understand, but menu entries?? H ow can I know what menu entries don't have write permission, and how can I override this?

Stage 2 test
Now, create a new default menu by deleting
 ~/.local/share/applications
 ~/.local/share/desktop-directories
~/.config/menus

Log out / in, start menulibre and start modifying the newly created default menu from scratch.

Seems that anything that is in Settings, even though it shows up in menulibre, is unable to be seen on the actual menu.

Possible workaround. Make a new category called Sys, put stuff from System into Sys, it'll show up on the menu.

But I never had that particular prob with alacarte. Feature or bug?

HTH Garry

[Sean Davis (bluesabre)]

Just a few notes for what you are experiencing...

1. Items that you would not have write access to would be those installed system-wide. They can be "removed" from the menu by turning "Hide from menus" on. This writes a locally installed version to your home directory (~/.local/share/applications) that is hidden, this removing it from your menu. This is basically what alacarte does when you "delete" a system launcher.

2. If you are using Xubuntu (and possibly other distros), you don't see the items in the Settings category because they are added to the Settings Manager.