Auto-place is Tool not Place

[Piotr Gałka]

0 of work, only decision needed. Would be good before 5.1 I think.

I am sure in PcbNew the menu "Auto-place" should be rather located in "Tools" menu.

In English "Auto-place" seems to fit to "Place". But in Polish menu "Place" is translated to "Add" and I would not look for "Auto-place" there. Translation is good - the problem is that Auto-pace is really an automatic tool and not placing (adding) one element by user like other positions in Place menu.

I would also consider if:
"Change Footprints...",
"Swap Layers...",
"Cleanup Tracks and Vias..."
are not enough clever to promote them to Tools menu.
I have not used these functions ever so I have no opinion - only suggestion to consider.

Also from Polish menu I would think of moveing "Set Layer Pair..." from "Tools" to "Settings". But as "Settings" in English are _only_ "Preferenses" I don't courage to suggest it.
But in my opinion the better name for Preferences would be Settings and then....

I don't know how other translations. But may be in other languages also Preferenses are translated to Settings and Place to Add.

I think my suggestions goes towards more universal (fit to many translations) menu organisation.

[Tomasz Wlostowski (twlostow)]

My 5 cents:

So maybe the translators should use the precise meaning of 'Place' (umieść) in the Polish translation? If we wanted to call this menu 'Add' like someone did in the PL version of KiCad, we would've called it 'Add', not 'Place'.

Tom

[Piotr Gałka (piotrgalka)]

It was certainly not the best argument. But I still feel "Auto-place" as Tool (or Edit) function as it just modifies location of some elements but not adds anything (which is the standard action of most 'Place' functions).

[Kerusey Karyu (keruseykaryu-deactivatedaccount)]

IMHO. The exact translation of "Place" to "Umieść" would sound a bit strange in the main menu. So, the "Add" (pl: 'Dodaj') was used as a lesser evil. Alternatively, I think we could use "Insert" (pl: 'Wstaw'), which sounds far better and is used here more often.

However, with the move of all autometers to the tool section I support Peter in its entirety.

[Piotr Gałka (piotrgalka)]

If anyone decision would tend to end with translation "Place" to "Umieść" I am very against it. It is why in my Bug Description I have writen: "Translation is good..."

I'd like come back also to Settings against Preferences. In Polish if you hear Settings you are at once thinking about something techical but when you hear Preferences first you join it with are sexual preferences (and not those standard).
So here change Preferences to Settings during translation is also good, but I suggest to think if not change it also in English (only to think as I have not enough feel of English).

[KiCad Janitor (kicad-janitor)]

KiCad bug tracker has moved to Gitlab. This report is now available here: https://gitlab.com/kicad/code/kicad/-/issues/3456