Help files could not be found under Windows

[Kerusey Karyu]

All KiCad applications after switching to KIWAY could not found any help files from <kicad_dir>/doc/help under Windows.
For example. When trying to call help file from KiCad project manager a message dialog has been displayed:

"Help file 'kicad.pdf' could not be found."

Also 'getting_started_in_kicad.pdf' couldn't be found.

All PDFs existed in /doc/help. All kiway files existed in bin dir.

Application: kicad
Version: (2014-04-27 BZR 4835)-product Release build
wxWidgets: Version 3.0.0 (debug,wchar_t,compiler with C++ ABI 1002,GCC 4.8.1,wx containers,compatible with 2.8)
Platform: Windows 7 (build 7601, Service Pack 1), 64-bit edition, 64 bit, Little endian, wxMSW
Boost version: 1.54.0
         USE_WX_GRAPHICS_CONTEXT=OFF
         USE_WX_OVERLAY=OFF
         KICAD_SCRIPTING=ON
         KICAD_SCRIPTING_MODULES=ON
         KICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON=ON
         USE_FP_LIB_TABLE=HARD_CODED_ON
         BUILD_GITHUB_PLUGIN=ON

The Linux binaries works fine. Every help files are loaded OK for this release.

Application: kicad
Version: (2014-04-27 BZR 4835)-product Release build
wxWidgets: Version 2.8.12 (release,Unicode,compiler with C++ ABI 1002,GCC 4.6.3,wx containers,compatible with 2.6)
Platform: Linux 3.2.0-60-generic i686, 32 bit, Little endian, wxGTK
Boost version: 1.54.0
         USE_WX_GRAPHICS_CONTEXT=OFF
         USE_WX_OVERLAY=OFF
         KICAD_SCRIPTING=OFF
         KICAD_SCRIPTING_MODULES=OFF
         KICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON=OFF
         USE_FP_LIB_TABLE=HARD_CODED_ON
         BUILD_GITHUB_PLUGIN=OFF

[jean-pierre charras (jp-charras)]

A bit strange: I do not have this issue in W7. It works fine for me.

[Nick Østergaard (nickoe)]

There was a bug report about this recently, where it was fixed (at least to work in linux), but I can't seem to find the report at the moment. It was probably marked as Fix committed.

[jean-pierre charras (jp-charras)]

I can reproduce this issue: a point in the kicad path breaks something.
Can you move the full Kicad tree from e:/kicad-winbuilder-3.3 to e:/ and see if your issue is fixed.

[Kerusey Karyu (keruseykaryu-deactivatedaccount)]

Nick Østergaard:
"There was a bug report about this recently, where it was fixed (at least to work in linux), but I can't seem to find the report at the moment."
Maybe you mean of notification about "kicad.pro" and Orson patch(es)?
https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1301595

Jean-Pierre Charras:
"I can reproduce this issue: a point in the kicad path breaks something."
I've been trying paths without point and any hyphens, moving full KiCad tree to the root of e:/ and c:/.
None of these things hadn't fix this issue.

Could it be the WinBuilder environment problem?

[Nick Østergaard (nickoe)]

Kerusey, it was kind of that but not really, because that bug only deals with the project templates, but i found the commit just a few commits before that, revision 4801.

http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kicad-product-committers/kicad/product/revision/4801

Maybe that commit broke it, or maybe it just did not fix it on windows, you could try to build the previous version, maybe.

[jean-pierre charras (jp-charras)]

Because it works for me, I am not thinking something was broken.
There is just something we do not understand.

"Could it be the WinBuilder environment problem"

I do not think it. However, how do you run Kicad ?
(On my computer, I have just created a shortcut that points to e:/kicad/bin/kicad.exe, to run kicad)

[Kerusey Karyu (keruseykaryu-deactivatedaccount)]

Recent KiCad compilations are started via RunKiCad.bat from WinBuilder. Before KIWAY everything works fine using this way.
Even if I run KiCad directly from the exe file, copying before some required DLL files, the problem still occurs.

I do not copy these binaries to my working KiCad (Good old BZR4403) because I'm waiting until the situation stabilizes. The recent versions are used for GUI translations testing, updating documentation and seeing what's new. Sometimes I catch a bug too.

[Jean-Paul Louis (louijp)]

I have the exact same problem with OS X

I copied the files to /Applications/kicad/share/kicad/doc/help which is the path that should be correct according to Dick.

Nothing that I tried could make the help files accessible to the kicad help menu.

[TraditionAndrew Denham (andrewdwork)]

I have the same issue with the latest windows versions i686 or x64 (not through winbuilder). The help files are there as pdfs but the menu help does not find them in any Kicad program.

[Wayne Stambaugh (stambaughw)]

Please post the full path to the help files. I cannot duplicate this on
my system. If someone knows what platform the installer build was
created and how the build was configured, please post this information.
 It would be useful to know if the issue is in the build configuration
or the KiCad source.

On 7/7/2015 5:57 PM, TraditionAndrew Denham wrote:
> I have the same issue with the latest windows versions i686 or x64 (not
> through winbuilder). The help files are there as pdfs but the menu help
> does not find them in any Kicad program.
>

[TraditionAndrew Denham (andrewdwork)]

Thanks for that Wayne.
I had a response from Nick which explains the probelm:
<<Nick Østergaard proposed the following answer:
You can read the latest versions of the docs at http://docs.kicad-
pcb.org/. This is ofc a workaround, because I have not made the windows
installer fetch and install those yet.>>
That probably explains it!
Thanks
Andy

      From: Wayne Stambaugh <email address hidden>
 To: <email address hidden>
 Sent: Wednesday, 8 July 2015, 15:18
 Subject: Re: [Bug 1313412] Re: Help files could not be found under Windows

Please post the full path to the help files.  I cannot duplicate this on
my system.  If someone knows what platform the installer build was
created and how the build was configured, please post this information.
 It would be useful to know if the issue is in the build configuration
or the KiCad source.

On 7/7/2015 5:57 PM, TraditionAndrew Denham wrote:
> I have the same issue with the latest windows versions i686 or x64 (not
> through winbuilder). The help files are there as pdfs but the menu help
> does not find them in any Kicad program.
>

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Title:
  Help files could not be found under Windows

Status in KiCad EDA Software Suite:
  Fix Released

Bug description:
  All KiCad applications after switching to KIWAY could not found any help files from <kicad_dir>/doc/help under Windows.
  For example. When trying to call help file from KiCad project manager a message dialog has been displayed:

  "Help file 'kicad.pdf' could not be found."

  Also 'getting_started_in_kicad.pdf' couldn't be found.

  All PDFs existed in /doc/help. All kiway files existed in bin dir.

  Application: kicad
  Version: (2014-04-27 BZR 4835)-product Release build
  wxWidgets: Version 3.0.0 (debug,wchar_t,compiler with C++ ABI 1002,GCC 4.8.1,wx containers,compatible with 2.8)
  Platform: Windows 7 (build 7601, Service Pack 1), 64-bit edition, 64 bit, Little endian, wxMSW
  Boost version: 1.54.0
          USE_WX_GRAPHICS_CONTEXT=OFF
          USE_WX_OVERLAY=OFF
          KICAD_SCRIPTING=ON
          KICAD_SCRIPTING_MODULES=ON
          KICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON=ON
          USE_FP_LIB_TABLE=HARD_CODED_ON
          BUILD_GITHUB_PLUGIN=ON

  The Linux binaries works fine. Every help files are loaded OK for this
  release.

  Application: kicad
  Version: (2014-04-27 BZR 4835)-product Release build
  wxWidgets: Version 2.8.12 (release,Unicode,compiler with C++ ABI 1002,GCC 4.6.3,wx containers,compatible with 2.6)
  Platform: Linux 3.2.0-60-generic i686, 32 bit, Little endian, wxGTK
  Boost version: 1.54.0
          USE_WX_GRAPHICS_CONTEXT=OFF
          USE_WX_OVERLAY=OFF
          KICAD_SCRIPTING=OFF
          KICAD_SCRIPTING_MODULES=OFF
          KICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON=OFF
          USE_FP_LIB_TABLE=HARD_CODED_ON
          BUILD_GITHUB_PLUGIN=OFF

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[Wayne Stambaugh (stambaughw)]

That explains why I don't have this issue. I build the documentation
from source. Hopefully Nick will get this resolved soon. Thanks Nick
for helping out Andy.

Wayne

On 7/9/2015 8:57 AM, TraditionAndrew Denham wrote:
> Thanks for that Wayne.
> I had a response from Nick which explains the probelm:
> <<Nick Østergaard proposed the following answer:
> You can read the latest versions of the docs at http://docs.kicad-
> pcb.org/. This is ofc a workaround, because I have not made the windows
> installer fetch and install those yet.>>
> That probably explains it!
> Thanks
> Andy
>
> From: Wayne Stambaugh <email address hidden>
> To: <email address hidden>
> Sent: Wednesday, 8 July 2015, 15:18
> Subject: Re: [Bug 1313412] Re: Help files could not be found under Windows
>
> Please post the full path to the help files. I cannot duplicate this on
> my system. If someone knows what platform the installer build was
> created and how the build was configured, please post this information.
> It would be useful to know if the issue is in the build configuration
> or the KiCad source.
>
> On 7/7/2015 5:57 PM, TraditionAndrew Denham wrote:
>> I have the same issue with the latest windows versions i686 or x64 (not
>> through winbuilder). The help files are there as pdfs but the menu help
>> does not find them in any Kicad program.
>>
>

[Wayne Stambaugh (stambaughw)]

I just committed a fix for this in r6203. As soon as the autobuilders create a new windows installer, please test this on a clean install to make sure the help files can be found.

[TraditionAndrew Denham (andrewdwork)]

Hi.
Just downloaded and installed latest X86 release dated 26.09.15 from here:
http://downloads.kicad-pcb.org/windows/

Still no help or how to files from the GUI menu strip under help.
The share / doc folder usually holding help and tutorials is now empty and shows as  0 bytes for both sub folders.
I cannot see any pdf files in the Kicad folder at all. I can only suspect that they were not installed from the download.
 I will try to copy them from another installation and see if they can be found then.
Andy D

       From: Jon Neal <email address hidden>
 To: <email address hidden>
 Sent: Saturday, 26 September 2015, 1:13
 Subject: [Bug 1313412] Re: Help files could not be found under Windows

** Changed in: kicad
      Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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Title:
  Help files could not be found under Windows

Status in KiCad:
  Fix Released

Bug description:
  All KiCad applications after switching to KIWAY could not found any help files from <kicad_dir>/doc/help under Windows.
  For example. When trying to call help file from KiCad project manager a message dialog has been displayed:

  "Help file 'kicad.pdf' could not be found."

  Also 'getting_started_in_kicad.pdf' couldn't be found.

  All PDFs existed in /doc/help. All kiway files existed in bin dir.

  Application: kicad
  Version: (2014-04-27 BZR 4835)-product Release build
  wxWidgets: Version 3.0.0 (debug,wchar_t,compiler with C++ ABI 1002,GCC 4.8.1,wx containers,compatible with 2.8)
  Platform: Windows 7 (build 7601, Service Pack 1), 64-bit edition, 64 bit, Little endian, wxMSW
  Boost version: 1.54.0
          USE_WX_GRAPHICS_CONTEXT=OFF
          USE_WX_OVERLAY=OFF
          KICAD_SCRIPTING=ON
          KICAD_SCRIPTING_MODULES=ON
          KICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON=ON
          USE_FP_LIB_TABLE=HARD_CODED_ON
          BUILD_GITHUB_PLUGIN=ON

  The Linux binaries works fine. Every help files are loaded OK for this
  release.

  Application: kicad
  Version: (2014-04-27 BZR 4835)-product Release build
  wxWidgets: Version 2.8.12 (release,Unicode,compiler with C++ ABI 1002,GCC 4.6.3,wx containers,compatible with 2.6)
  Platform: Linux 3.2.0-60-generic i686, 32 bit, Little endian, wxGTK
  Boost version: 1.54.0
          USE_WX_GRAPHICS_CONTEXT=OFF
          USE_WX_OVERLAY=OFF
          KICAD_SCRIPTING=OFF
          KICAD_SCRIPTING_MODULES=OFF
          KICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON=OFF
          USE_FP_LIB_TABLE=HARD_CODED_ON
          BUILD_GITHUB_PLUGIN=OFF

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[TraditionAndrew Denham (andrewdwork)]

Hi,
I downloaded the pdf files from http://kicad-pcb.org/help/documentation/  and loaded them into the share\Kicad\docs folder in the existing help & tutorial folders.
This still did not work. I then modified the path created on installation:
KICAD   C:\Program Files\KiCad\share\docs\kicad\help\en to reflect the exact location of the files. This still did not work.
I then created a new entry in the Path configuration window:
HELP   C:\Program Files\KiCad\share\docs\kicad\help\en
Next I deleted the tutorial folder from docs and moved all the files into a single folder with the path above and it now works.
I am unsure if this is correct or may have other consequences but does access the help and tutorial files correctly now.
I am uncertain if the default entry is created in error at install as it appears to be a directive to KICAD itself rather than the Help files.
The help files were definitely not installed along with the program.
Hope this gives some pointers.
Regards
Andy
       From: Jon Neal <email address hidden>
 To: <email address hidden>
 Sent: Saturday, 26 September 2015, 1:13
 Subject: [Bug 1313412] Re: Help files could not be found under Windows

** Changed in: kicad
      Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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Title:
  Help files could not be found under Windows

Status in KiCad:
  Fix Released

Bug description:
  All KiCad applications after switching to KIWAY could not found any help files from <kicad_dir>/doc/help under Windows.
  For example. When trying to call help file from KiCad project manager a message dialog has been displayed:

  "Help file 'kicad.pdf' could not be found."

  Also 'getting_started_in_kicad.pdf' couldn't be found.

  All PDFs existed in /doc/help. All kiway files existed in bin dir.

  Application: kicad
  Version: (2014-04-27 BZR 4835)-product Release build
  wxWidgets: Version 3.0.0 (debug,wchar_t,compiler with C++ ABI 1002,GCC 4.8.1,wx containers,compatible with 2.8)
  Platform: Windows 7 (build 7601, Service Pack 1), 64-bit edition, 64 bit, Little endian, wxMSW
  Boost version: 1.54.0
          USE_WX_GRAPHICS_CONTEXT=OFF
          USE_WX_OVERLAY=OFF
          KICAD_SCRIPTING=ON
          KICAD_SCRIPTING_MODULES=ON
          KICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON=ON
          USE_FP_LIB_TABLE=HARD_CODED_ON
          BUILD_GITHUB_PLUGIN=ON

  The Linux binaries works fine. Every help files are loaded OK for this
  release.

  Application: kicad
  Version: (2014-04-27 BZR 4835)-product Release build
  wxWidgets: Version 2.8.12 (release,Unicode,compiler with C++ ABI 1002,GCC 4.6.3,wx containers,compatible with 2.6)
  Platform: Linux 3.2.0-60-generic i686, 32 bit, Little endian, wxGTK
  Boost version: 1.54.0
          USE_WX_GRAPHICS_CONTEXT=OFF
          USE_WX_OVERLAY=OFF
          KICAD_SCRIPTING=OFF
          KICAD_SCRIPTING_MODULES=OFF
          KICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON=OFF
          USE_FP_LIB_TABLE=HARD_CODED_ON
          BUILD_GITHUB_PLUGIN=OFF

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[Wayne Stambaugh (stambaughw)]

I just checked kicad-product-r6224.b504252-i686.exe and you are correct.
 There are no help files. However, I copied my language specific help
files and paths from another install location to
kicad_install_path\share\docs\kicad\help and the pdf files were found
without any issues. This appears to have been fixed. What version of
kicad are you using?

On 9/27/2015 6:36 AM, TraditionAndrew Denham wrote:
> Hi,
> I downloaded the pdf files from http://kicad-pcb.org/help/documentation/ and loaded them into the share\Kicad\docs folder in the existing help & tutorial folders.
> This still did not work. I then modified the path created on installation:
> KICAD C:\Program Files\KiCad\share\docs\kicad\help\en to reflect the exact location of the files. This still did not work.
> I then created a new entry in the Path configuration window:
> HELP C:\Program Files\KiCad\share\docs\kicad\help\en
> Next I deleted the tutorial folder from docs and moved all the files into a single folder with the path above and it now works.
> I am unsure if this is correct or may have other consequences but does access the help and tutorial files correctly now.
> I am uncertain if the default entry is created in error at install as it appears to be a directive to KICAD itself rather than the Help files.
> The help files were definitely not installed along with the program.
> Hope this gives some pointers.
> Regards
> Andy
> From: Jon Neal <email address hidden>
> To: <email address hidden>
> Sent: Saturday, 26 September 2015, 1:13
> Subject: [Bug 1313412] Re: Help files could not be found under Windows
>
> ** Changed in: kicad
> Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released
>

[TraditionAndrew Denham (andrewdwork)]

Hi Wayne

I am using the latest version dated 27/09 http://downloads.kicad-pcb.org/windows/kicad-product-r6224.b504252-x86_64.exe
The files are readily found if copied to the path  C:\Program Files\Kicad\share\doc\Kicad\help\en and then this is set as the path in Path configuration with the name . By default it seems to install this path as "KICAD" but that works fine.

Today I did another clean install on a separate PC and tried the latest stable version which does load the pdfs but will not find them.

I then installed the newest development version (above) which does not load the pdf files but will find them if they are loaded separately.
The tutorial folder is also empty, but I am not sure what files should be there if  any
Regards
Andrew
      From: Wayne Stambaugh <email address hidden>
 To: <email address hidden>
 Sent: Sunday, 27 September 2015, 14:22
 Subject: Re: [Bug 1313412] Re: Help files could not be found under Windows

I just checked kicad-product-r6224.b504252-i686.exe and you are correct.
 There are no help files.  However, I copied my language specific help
files and paths from another install location to
kicad_install_path\share\docs\kicad\help and the pdf files were found
without any issues.  This appears to have been fixed.  What version of
kicad are you using?

On 9/27/2015 6:36 AM, TraditionAndrew Denham wrote:
> Hi,
> I downloaded the pdf files from http://kicad-pcb.org/help/documentation/ and loaded them into the share\Kicad\docs folder in the existing help & tutorial folders.
> This still did not work. I then modified the path created on installation:
> KICAD  C:\Program Files\KiCad\share\docs\kicad\help\en to reflect the exact location of the files. This still did not work.
> I then created a new entry in the Path configuration window:
> HELP  C:\Program Files\KiCad\share\docs\kicad\help\en
> Next I deleted the tutorial folder from docs and moved all the files into a single folder with the path above and it now works.
> I am unsure if this is correct or may have other consequences but does access the help and tutorial files correctly now.
> I am uncertain if the default entry is created in error at install as it appears to be a directive to KICAD itself rather than the Help files.
> The help files were definitely not installed along with the program.
> Hope this gives some pointers.
> Regards
> Andy
>        From: Jon Neal <email address hidden>
>  To: <email address hidden>
>  Sent: Saturday, 26 September 2015, 1:13
>  Subject: [Bug 1313412] Re: Help files could not be found under Windows
>
> ** Changed in: kicad
>      Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released
>

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Title:
  Help files could not be found under Windows

Status in KiCad:
  Fix Released

Bug description:
  All KiCad applications after switching to KIWAY could not found any help files from <kicad_dir>/doc/help under Windows.
  For example. When trying to call help file from KiCad project manager a message dialog has been displayed:

  "Help file 'kicad.pdf' could not be found."

  Also 'getting_started_in_k...

[Wayne Stambaugh (stambaughw)]

On 9/28/2015 3:57 AM, TraditionAndrew Denham wrote:
> Hi Wayne
>
> I am using the latest version dated 27/09 http://downloads.kicad-pcb.org/windows/kicad-product-r6224.b504252-x86_64.exe
> The files are readily found if copied to the path C:\Program Files\Kicad\share\doc\Kicad\help\en and then this is set as the path in Path configuration with the name . By default it seems to install this path as "KICAD" but that works fine.
>
> Today I did another clean install on a separate PC and tried the latest
> stable version which does load the pdfs but will not find them.

Which stable version?

>
> I then installed the newest development version (above) which does not load the pdf files but will find them if they are loaded separately.
> The tutorial folder is also empty, but I am not sure what files should be there if any

You need to copy the "getting_started_in_kicad.pdf" file into the same
help docs language folder where the other manuals reside.

> Regards
> Andrew
> From: Wayne Stambaugh <email address hidden>
> To: <email address hidden>
> Sent: Sunday, 27 September 2015, 14:22
> Subject: Re: [Bug 1313412] Re: Help files could not be found under Windows
>
> I just checked kicad-product-r6224.b504252-i686.exe and you are correct.
> There are no help files. However, I copied my language specific help
> files and paths from another install location to
> kicad_install_path\share\docs\kicad\help and the pdf files were found
> without any issues. This appears to have been fixed. What version of
> kicad are you using?
>
> On 9/27/2015 6:36 AM, TraditionAndrew Denham wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I downloaded the pdf files from http://kicad-pcb.org/help/documentation/ and loaded them into the share\Kicad\docs folder in the existing help & tutorial folders.
>> This still did not work. I then modified the path created on installation:
>> KICAD C:\Program Files\KiCad\share\docs\kicad\help\en to reflect the exact location of the files. This still did not work.
>> I then created a new entry in the Path configuration window:
>> HELP C:\Program Files\KiCad\share\docs\kicad\help\en
>> Next I deleted the tutorial folder from docs and moved all the files into a single folder with the path above and it now works.
>> I am unsure if this is correct or may have other consequences but does access the help and tutorial files correctly now.
>> I am uncertain if the default entry is created in error at install as it appears to be a directive to KICAD itself rather than the Help files.
>> The help files were definitely not installed along with the program.
>> Hope this gives some pointers.
>> Regards
>> Andy
>> From: Jon Neal <email address hidden>
>> To: <email address hidden>
>> Sent: Saturday, 26 September 2015, 1:13
>> Subject: [Bug 1313412] Re: Help files could not be found under Windows
>>
>> ** Changed in: kicad
>> Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released
>>
>

[TraditionAndrew Denham (andrewdwork)]

Wayne,
<<Which stable version?>>
This one on the downloads page:
2015 Stable Release
Current Version: 4.0.0 RC1Windows 64-bit (x86_64)
It loads the .pdf files but cannot find them even after tweaking the config file path  setings.

<<You need to copy the "getting_started_in_kicad.pdf" file into the same
help docs language folder where the other manuals reside.>>
Yes I found that out.

Thanks
Andrew

      From: Wayne Stambaugh <email address hidden>
 To: <email address hidden>
 Sent: Monday, 28 September 2015, 15:32
 Subject: Re: [Bug 1313412] Re: Help files could not be found under Windows

On 9/28/2015 3:57 AM, TraditionAndrew Denham wrote:
> Hi Wayne
>
> I am using the latest version dated 27/09 http://downloads.kicad-pcb.org/windows/kicad-product-r6224.b504252-x86_64.exe
> The files are readily found if copied to the path  C:\Program Files\Kicad\share\doc\Kicad\help\en and then this is set as the path in Path configuration with the name . By default it seems to install this path as "KICAD" but that works fine.
>
> Today I did another clean install on a separate PC and tried the latest
> stable version which does load the pdfs but will not find them.

Which stable version?

>
> I then installed the newest development version (above) which does not load the pdf files but will find them if they are loaded separately.
> The tutorial folder is also empty, but I am not sure what files should be there if  any

You need to copy the "getting_started_in_kicad.pdf" file into the same
help docs language folder where the other manuals reside.

> Regards
> Andrew
>      From: Wayne Stambaugh <email address hidden>
>  To: <email address hidden>
>  Sent: Sunday, 27 September 2015, 14:22
>  Subject: Re: [Bug 1313412] Re: Help files could not be found under Windows
>
> I just checked kicad-product-r6224.b504252-i686.exe and you are correct.
>  There are no help files.  However, I copied my language specific help
> files and paths from another install location to
> kicad_install_path\share\docs\kicad\help and the pdf files were found
> without any issues.  This appears to have been fixed.  What version of
> kicad are you using?
>
> On 9/27/2015 6:36 AM, TraditionAndrew Denham wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I downloaded the pdf files from http://kicad-pcb.org/help/documentation/ and loaded them into the share\Kicad\docs folder in the existing help & tutorial folders.
>> This still did not work. I then modified the path created on installation:
>> KICAD  C:\Program Files\KiCad\share\docs\kicad\help\en to reflect the exact location of the files. This still did not work.
>> I then created a new entry in the Path configuration window:
>> HELP  C:\Program Files\KiCad\share\docs\kicad\help\en
>> Next I deleted the tutorial folder from docs and moved all the files into a single folder with the path above and it now works.
>> I am unsure if this is correct or may have other consequences but does access the help and tutorial files correctly now.
>> I am uncertain if the default entry is created in error at install as it appears to be a directive to KICAD itself rather than the Help files.
>> The help files were definitely not installed along with ...

[Wayne Stambaugh (stambaughw)]

On 9/29/2015 3:00 AM, TraditionAndrew Denham wrote:
> Wayne,
> <<Which stable version?>>
> This one on the downloads page:
> 2015 Stable Release
> Current Version: 4.0.0 RC1Windows 64-bit (x86_64)
> It loads the .pdf files but cannot find them even after tweaking the config file path setings.

I fixed this bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/1313412 in the product
branch. It was committed in the product branch r6203. That's why it
works in the latest nightly builds. This will get updated in 4.0.0-rc2
in the not too distant future.

>
>
> <<You need to copy the "getting_started_in_kicad.pdf" file into the same
> help docs language folder where the other manuals reside.>>
> Yes I found that out.
>
> Thanks
> Andrew
>
>
>
> From: Wayne Stambaugh <email address hidden>
> To: <email address hidden>
> Sent: Monday, 28 September 2015, 15:32
> Subject: Re: [Bug 1313412] Re: Help files could not be found under Windows
>
> On 9/28/2015 3:57 AM, TraditionAndrew Denham wrote:
>> Hi Wayne
>>
>> I am using the latest version dated 27/09 http://downloads.kicad-pcb.org/windows/kicad-product-r6224.b504252-x86_64.exe
>> The files are readily found if copied to the path C:\Program Files\Kicad\share\doc\Kicad\help\en and then this is set as the path in Path configuration with the name . By default it seems to install this path as "KICAD" but that works fine.
>>
>> Today I did another clean install on a separate PC and tried the latest
>> stable version which does load the pdfs but will not find them.
>
> Which stable version?
>
>>
>> I then installed the newest development version (above) which does not load the pdf files but will find them if they are loaded separately.
>> The tutorial folder is also empty, but I am not sure what files should be there if any
>
> You need to copy the "getting_started_in_kicad.pdf" file into the same
> help docs language folder where the other manuals reside.
>
>> Regards
>> Andrew
>> From: Wayne Stambaugh <email address hidden>
>> To: <email address hidden>
>> Sent: Sunday, 27 September 2015, 14:22
>> Subject: Re: [Bug 1313412] Re: Help files could not be found under Windows
>>
>> I just checked kicad-product-r6224.b504252-i686.exe and you are correct.
>> There are no help files. However, I copied my language specific help
>> files and paths from another install location to
>> kicad_install_path\share\docs\kicad\help and the pdf files were found
>> without any issues. This appears to have been fixed. What version of
>> kicad are you using?
>>
>> On 9/27/2015 6:36 AM, TraditionAndrew Denham wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I downloaded the pdf files from http://kicad-pcb.org/help/documentation/ and loaded them into the share\Kicad\docs folder in the existing help & tutorial folders.
>>> This still did not work. I then modified the path created on installation:
>>> KICAD C:\Program Files\KiCad\share\docs\kicad\help\en to reflect the exact location of the files. This still did not work.
>>> I then created a new entry in the Path configuration window:
>>> HELP C:\Program Files\KiCad\share\docs\kicad\help\en
>>> Next I deleted the tutorial folder from docs and moved all the files i...

[TraditionAndrew Denham (andrewdwork)]

Thanks. I now have other problems like printing from the new versions. Prints seem to be portrait whatever is selected, and pdfs are balnk.I have reverted to the 2013 version for now as I need to use this for a PCB.Unfortunately I killed my module library as well, and the older version cannot read the newer files!  Back to the drawing board!
A
       From: Wayne Stambaugh <email address hidden>
 To: <email address hidden>
 Sent: Tuesday, 29 September 2015, 13:23
 Subject: Re: [Bug 1313412] Re: Help files could not be found under Windows

On 9/29/2015 3:00 AM, TraditionAndrew Denham wrote:
> Wayne,
> <<Which stable version?>>
> This one on the downloads page:
> 2015 Stable Release
> Current Version: 4.0.0 RC1Windows 64-bit (x86_64)
> It loads the .pdf files but cannot find them even after tweaking the config file path  setings.

I fixed this bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/1313412 in the product
branch.  It was committed in the product branch r6203.  That's why it
works in the latest nightly builds.  This will get updated in 4.0.0-rc2
in the not too distant future.

>
>
> <<You need to copy the "getting_started_in_kicad.pdf" file into the same
> help docs language folder where the other manuals reside.>>
> Yes I found that out.
>
> Thanks
> Andrew
>
>
>
>      From: Wayne Stambaugh <email address hidden>
>  To: <email address hidden>
>  Sent: Monday, 28 September 2015, 15:32
>  Subject: Re: [Bug 1313412] Re: Help files could not be found under Windows
>
> On 9/28/2015 3:57 AM, TraditionAndrew Denham wrote:
>> Hi Wayne
>>
>> I am using the latest version dated 27/09 http://downloads.kicad-pcb.org/windows/kicad-product-r6224.b504252-x86_64.exe
>> The files are readily found if copied to the path  C:\Program Files\Kicad\share\doc\Kicad\help\en and then this is set as the path in Path configuration with the name . By default it seems to install this path as "KICAD" but that works fine.
>>
>> Today I did another clean install on a separate PC and tried the latest
>> stable version which does load the pdfs but will not find them.
>
> Which stable version?
>
>>
>> I then installed the newest development version (above) which does not load the pdf files but will find them if they are loaded separately.
>> The tutorial folder is also empty, but I am not sure what files should be there if  any
>
> You need to copy the "getting_started_in_kicad.pdf" file into the same
> help docs language folder where the other manuals reside.
>
>> Regards
>> Andrew
>>      From: Wayne Stambaugh <email address hidden>
>>  To: <email address hidden>
>>  Sent: Sunday, 27 September 2015, 14:22
>>  Subject: Re: [Bug 1313412] Re: Help files could not be found under Windows
>>
>> I just checked kicad-product-r6224.b504252-i686.exe and you are correct.
>>  There are no help files.  However, I copied my language specific help
>> files and paths from another install location to
>> kicad_install_path\share\docs\kicad\help and the pdf files were found
>> without any issues.  This appears to have been fixed.  What version of
>> kicad are you using?
>>
>> On 9/27/2015 6:36 AM, TraditionAndrew Denham wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I downloaded the pdf ...