juju doesn't use vsphere terminology where applicable

[Aaron Bentley]

Vsphere and juju have very different terminologies. While they have been mapped in a reasonably coherent way, juju terminology is confusing for the vsphere user coming to juju.

add-cloud's interactive mode could use more vsphere terminology. Instead of "API endpoint", it could say "Vcenter host" (bug #1649647). Instead of "region", it could say "Datacenter name".

Also, juju has mapped the "zone" placement directive to vsphere clusters and hosts. AIUI, placement directives are per-provider, so supporting "cluster" and "host" as placement directives for vsphere would be clearer.

The rough mapping of vsphere to juju terminology is:
Cloud -> Vcenter
Region -> Datacenter name
Zone -> Host or cluster

[Vance Morris (vmorris)]

Just adding 2c here... this seems fatuous. Semantics in technology are difficult, sure, but to ask for a rename of "cloud" to "vcenter" is... I can think of worse words to use than "pointless".

[Vance Morris (vmorris)]

... I'll amend: If you're talking about the terms changing once a user bootstraps a controller into a vsphere provider, it might make a bit more sense.. or having an option where a user could switch the vocabulary to be more conceptually friendly, that doesn't rub me in any which way.

[Larry Michel (lmic)]

+ 1 .. For API endpoint, it could also say vCenter API endpoint as a compromise. For Zone, it makes sense to just use host/cluster as Aaron mentions or perhaps we could have a compromise like Availability Zone (cluster or host).

[Andrew Wilkins (axwalk)]

Now that we're using JSON Schema for interactive add-cloud, it's straightforward to change the "region" to "datacenter", and "cloud" to "vCenter". I'll do that as part of fixing lp:1649647.

Zone is a different kettle of fish, since it's not just an interactive prompt, and it's not a one-to-one mapping (zone can mean host *or* cluster... if we're to support "host" or "cluster" in the placement, then it should only allow objects of that type to be specified).

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