What about non-cygwin Windows?

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Vishal Vatsa <email address hidden> wrote:
> I have used cygwin and openssh to get a shell on winXP even X11
> portfowarding in cygwin work :)
>
> 2010/1/18 Brian Granger <email address hidden>:
>> Is there a ssh daemon that is usable on Windows.  I now about putty
>> for client ssh and we could use
>> that.  Not sure if users would have an ssh daemon on Windows though.
>> For Windows, the best
>> solution is to use the Windows HPC 2008 OS and its builtin job
>> scheduler (IPython has very good support for this).
>> Only downside is the cost of the OS ;(
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Toby Burnett <email address hidden> wrote:
>>> This was on linux.
>>> So I guess the only issue is a slight delay after starting the ipcontroller. I'll try that, thanks.
>>>
>>> Looking at the ipcluster code, (version 0.10) I see that the ssh mode is
>>> not supported for windows to linux, a case that we would like to use.
>>> Hopefully with the new version when you get it to work>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ipcluster does not start all the engines
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/509015
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>>> Status in IPython - Enhanced Interactive Python: New
>>>
>>> Bug description:
>>> As reported on the mailing list...
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Toby Burnett <tburnett@EMAIL-REMOVED>
>>> Date: Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 8:58 AM
>>> Subject: [IPython-user] ipcluster does not start all the engines
>>> To: "<email address hidden>" <email address hidden>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I did not find any previous notes on this.
>>> I have a cluster of 4 machines, each with 8 hyperthreaded cores, so I can run 16 engines per machine, or 64 in all. It is amazingly easy and useful, thanks so much for providing this.
>>>
>>> However, when using ipcluster on one of these machines in ssh mode, with this clusterfile,
>>> send_furl = False
>>> engines = { 'tev1' : 16,
>>>           'tev2' : 16,
>>>           'tev3' : 16,
>>>           'tev4' : 16
>>> }
>>>
>>> I typically get about 50 engines to actually start. Since there seems to be no log file for ipcluster (in spite of code that seems like it should record which engines it tried to start), I can't send that. The ipcontroller log file looks fine, except for recording fewer than the 64 engines that I expected.
>>>
>>> I have an alternative, very klugy method that starts a controller, then executes 64 ssh commands to the respective machines to simply run ipengine. I found the same problem, which went away when I introduced a 1 second delay after each ssh call, which of course takes more than a minute to run, and leaves all those ssh processes running.
>>>
>>> So I suspect that the same thing would work in the loop in this method of ipcluster.SSHEngineSet
>>>
>>>   def _ssh_engine(self, hostname, count):
>>>       exec_engine = "ssh %s sh %s/%s-sshx.sh %s" % (
>>>           hostname, self.temp_dir,
>>>           os.environ['USER'], self.engine_command
>>>       )
>>>       cmds = exec_engine.split()
>>>       dlist = []
>>>       log.msg("about to start engines...")
>>>       for i in range(count):
>>>           log.msg('Starting engines: %s' % exec_engine)
>>>           d = getProcessOutput(cmds[0], cmds[1:], env=os.environ)
>>>           dlist.append(d)
>>>       return gatherBoth(dlist, consumeErrors=True)
>>>
>>> but that would be inelegant, given that the real problem is probably related to the controller not responding properly to multiple requests.
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking at this.
>>>
>>> --Toby Burnett
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Brian E. Granger, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Professor of Physics
>> Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
>> <email address hidden>
>> <email address hidden>
>>
>> --
>> ipcluster does not start all the engines
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/509015
>> You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee.
>>
>> Status in IPython - Enhanced Interactive Python: New
>>
>> Bug description:
>> As reported on the mailing list...
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Toby Burnett <tburnett@EMAIL-REMOVED>
>> Date: Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 8:58 AM
>> Subject: [IPython-user] ipcluster does not start all the engines
>> To: "<email address hidden>" <email address hidden>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> I did not find any previous notes on this.
>> I have a cluster of 4 machines, each with 8 hyperthreaded cores, so I can run 16 engines per machine, or 64 in all. It is amazingly easy and useful, thanks so much for providing this.
>>
>> However, when using ipcluster on one of these machines in ssh mode, with this clusterfile,
>> send_furl = False
>> engines = { 'tev1' : 16,
>>           'tev2' : 16,
>>           'tev3' : 16,
>>           'tev4' : 16
>> }
>>
>> I typically get about 50 engines to actually start. Since there seems to be no log file for ipcluster (in spite of code that seems like it should record which engines it tried to start), I can't send that. The ipcontroller log file looks fine, except for recording fewer than the 64 engines that I expected.
>>
>> I have an alternative, very klugy method that starts a controller, then executes 64 ssh commands to the respective machines to simply run ipengine. I found the same problem, which went away when I introduced a 1 second delay after each ssh call, which of course takes more than a minute to run, and leaves all those ssh processes running.
>>
>> So I suspect that the same thing would work in the loop in this method of ipcluster.SSHEngineSet
>>
>>   def _ssh_engine(self, hostname, count):
>>       exec_engine = "ssh %s sh %s/%s-sshx.sh %s" % (
>>           hostname, self.temp_dir,
>>           os.environ['USER'], self.engine_command
>>       )
>>       cmds = exec_engine.split()
>>       dlist = []
>>       log.msg("about to start engines...")
>>       for i in range(count):
>>           log.msg('Starting engines: %s' % exec_engine)
>>           d = getProcessOutput(cmds[0], cmds[1:], env=os.environ)
>>           dlist.append(d)
>>       return gatherBoth(dlist, consumeErrors=True)
>>
>> but that would be inelegant, given that the real problem is probably related to the controller not responding properly to multiple requests.
>>
>> Thanks for looking at this.
>>
>> --Toby Burnett
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> ipcluster does not start all the engines
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/509015
> You received this bug notification because you are a member of IPython
> Developers, which is subscribed to IPython.
>
> Status in IPython - Enhanced Interactive Python: New
>
> Bug description:
> As reported on the mailing list...
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Toby Burnett <tburnett@EMAIL-REMOVED>
> Date: Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 8:58 AM
> Subject: [IPython-user] ipcluster does not start all the engines
> To: "<email address hidden>" <email address hidden>
>
>
> Hi,
> I did not find any previous notes on this.
> I have a cluster of 4 machines, each with 8 hyperthreaded cores, so I can run 16 engines per machine, or 64 in all. It is amazingly easy and useful, thanks so much for providing this.
>
> However, when using ipcluster on one of these machines in ssh mode, with this clusterfile,
> send_furl = False
> engines = { 'tev1' : 16,
>           'tev2' : 16,
>           'tev3' : 16,
>           'tev4' : 16
> }
>
> I typically get about 50 engines to actually start. Since there seems to be no log file for ipcluster (in spite of code that seems like it should record which engines it tried to start), I can't send that. The ipcontroller log file looks fine, except for recording fewer than the 64 engines that I expected.
>
> I have an alternative, very klugy method that starts a controller, then executes 64 ssh commands to the respective machines to simply run ipengine. I found the same problem, which went away when I introduced a 1 second delay after each ssh call, which of course takes more than a minute to run, and leaves all those ssh processes running.
>
> So I suspect that the same thing would work in the loop in this method of ipcluster.SSHEngineSet
>
>   def _ssh_engine(self, hostname, count):
>       exec_engine = "ssh %s sh %s/%s-sshx.sh %s" % (
>           hostname, self.temp_dir,
>           os.environ['USER'], self.engine_command
>       )
>       cmds = exec_engine.split()
>       dlist = []
>       log.msg("about to start engines...")
>       for i in range(count):
>           log.msg('Starting engines: %s' % exec_engine)
>           d = getProcessOutput(cmds[0], cmds[1:], env=os.environ)
>           dlist.append(d)
>       return gatherBoth(dlist, consumeErrors=True)
>
> but that would be inelegant, given that the real problem is probably related to the controller not responding properly to multiple requests.
>
> Thanks for looking at this.
>
> --Toby Burnett
>
>
>



-- 
Brian E. Granger, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor of Physics
Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
<email address hidden>
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