Spanish translation update for 0.47

[Lucas Vieites]

Partial update to spanish po file.

[Marcin Floryan (mfloryan)]

Committed into CVS 20632.

[theAdib (theadib)]

Did you also check that the win32 installer files (*.nsh) is up to date? http://inkscape.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/inkscape/inkscape/trunk/packaging/win32/
Thx, Adib.

[Lucas Vieites (lucasvieites)]

It's on the TODO list. ;-)

[Lucas Vieites (lucasvieites)]

New update (20090218).
I'm updating this bug instead of opening a new one.

[Lucas Vieites (lucasvieites)]

Bug updated 2009-02-18 with new file

[jazzynico (jazzynico)]

Committed revision 20729.
Thanks!

[Guillermo Espertino (Gez) (gespertino-gmail)]

Hi, I've recently reported something that I thought it was a program bug, but it turned out to be a translation bug.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/179596

I corrected the .po file changing the strings that had the wrong translation to fix that bug and attached the file to the report.
I'd like you to consider to commit that change so we can close that bug.

[Lucas Vieites (lucasvieites)]

I'm sorry, but the word "Indefinir" you used to correct the translation does not exist in spanish. Could you please explain the differences between "Unset fill/stroke" and "Remove fill/stroke" so that we can find a better translation.
Thank you.

[Guillermo Espertino (Gez) (gespertino-gmail)]

Lucas: Estoy al tanto de que la palabra no figura en el diccionario de la RAE, pero la encontré en varios sitios de traducción como el antónimo de definir.
La palabra "indefinido" sí existe, y creo que sería aceptable darle una forma infinitiva para esta situación particular, ya que probablemente no exista una palabra en castellano en forma infinitiva para esta acción.
En cuanto al comando de inkscape, la diferencia es importante: "Remove" elimina el trazo o relleno, haciendo que éste sea completamente invisible, mientras que "unset" deja ese relleno/trazo indefinido. Se ve opaco (negro) pero en el caso de clones ese color podrá ser definido en cada clon, mientras que cuando se tiene un relleno fijo o eliminado, el clon no podrá tener ese atributo diferente al original.
Por el momento Inkscape tiene duplicada la palabra "Eliminar" para dos operaciones que son muy distintas, y eso debería ser corregido. Por eso mi propuesta para cambiar la palabra por "indefinir", que aunque puede ser no del todo correcta, da una idea más aproximada de lo que hace el comando.

P.s.: Sorry for the spanish reply. :-)

[Guillermo Espertino (Gez) (gespertino-gmail)]

I'm marking my bug report about the remove/unset translation as a duplicate of this in order to reduce de bug count, since this report may work as a meta-bug for the spanish translation.

[Lucas Vieites (lucasvieites)]

I'm attaching a corrected po file. This addresses menu item duplication in bug #179596

[Guillermo Espertino (Gez) (gespertino-gmail)]

Lucas:
I just found a string that contains "Desajustar color" as translation of "Unset Paint".
Wouldn't be better to use that word instead of "retirar"?
I found "retirar" too vague for the operation, and not too different than "eliminar".

[jazzynico (jazzynico)]

Committed revision 20871

[Lucas Vieites (lucasvieites)]

Updated translation for 0.47

[jazzynico (jazzynico)]

Committed revision 21336. Thanks for the update!

[Lucas Vieites (lucasvieites)]

Updated translation for 0.47

[jazzynico (jazzynico)]

Committed rev. 21612. Thanks!

[Lucas Vieites (lucasvieites)]

Updated translation for 0.47, merged latest inkscape.pot

[helix84 (helix84)]

Thanks. Commited in r21619.

[helix84 (helix84)]

Please note that Language-team header should be the email address of the Spanish language team (you specified <email address hidden>) where we can turn to in case we cannot contact Last-translator.

[Pablo Trabajos (pajarico)]

My 2cents: wouldn't "No definir pintura" be the best alternative to "Unset paint"? Also, I see that in that particular example you translated "paint" as "color", while in the english dialog there are two different terms ("paint" and "color"). The differences are:
- Paint: can be nothing, pattern, flat color or gradient.
- Color: A flat color (i. e.: none of the others),
This should be disambiguated in the Spanish translation too.

[Guillermo Espertino (Gez) (gespertino-gmail)]

It's a tricky one :)
Personally, I'd use "fill" instead of "paint" in that command, and in the translation I'd change "pintura" to "relleno".
Then I'd change the command translation to "relleno sin definir" (and "trazo sin definir" for the stroke equivalent).
That would make a real difference between this command and the one for removing the fill, making it easier to understand.

[Pablo Trabajos (pajarico)]

I agree :)

The original string should use "Fill" or "Stroke" instead of "Paint". Result:
- No paint (fill tab) -> No fill -> Sin relleno
- Unset paint (fill tab) -> Unset fill -> No definir relleno
- No paint (stroke tab) -> No stroke -> Sin trazo
- Unset paint (stroke tab) -> Unset stroke -> No definir trazo

I think this is what you meant. The problem now is that the color picker (/src/widgets/paint-selector.cpp) shares these strings for both fill and stroke tabs on the Fill & Stroke dialog. So it has to be disambiguated in the code first.

[Guillermo Espertino (Gez) (gespertino-gmail)]

Yes, that's exactly what I meant.
The term "fill" is used in the "Fill and Stroke" dialog, and the term "paint" is used somewhere else, apparently meaning the same.
That should be disambiguated and then translated, and in my oppinion, the translation "no definir relleno/trazo" would be the most approriate string for that.

[Pablo Trabajos (pajarico)]

Lucas, I want to proof-read your translation someday soon (preferably before 0.47 release) but I don't want to do the job only to see that you're already preparing the next update. I need you to tell me if you're working on the next update, and if so when you will release it. I would like to proof-read it then, make my corrections and discuss some parts I'm not happy with (for example the translation of "gradient" as "gradiente", sorry, can't let go that one;))

Awaiting your response.

[Lucas Vieites (lucasvieites)]

Updated translation for 0.47

[helix84 (helix84)]

Thanks, commited in r22163.

[Lucas Vieites (lucasvieites)]

Updated and corrected some bugs in the spanish translation (mostly context pipes).

[Lucas Vieites (lucasvieites)]

Updated spanish translation after big patch commit for v. 0.47

[jazzynico (jazzynico)]

Committed in rev. 22216.
Thanks!

[Lucas Vieites (lucasvieites)]

Another update for 0.47

[jazzynico (jazzynico)]

Committed revision 22351.
Thanks!

[Lucas Vieites (lucasvieites)]

Hopefully the final update for 0.47

[jazzynico (jazzynico)]

Update committed in revision 22412.
Thanks!

[Lucas Vieites (lucasvieites)]

Last minute translation update for v 0.47 regarding .desktop files

[a_b (arpad-biro)]

Thanks, Lucas. Committed.

[Lucas Vieites (lucasvieites)]

Hi, I changed a string translation following a suggestion from a user.

[jazzynico (jazzynico)]

Committed revision 22560.
Thanks!