Three dot leader "…" are used on menu captions

Reported by Koichi Akabe on 2012-03-15
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Bug Description

Three dot leader "…" (not three periods "...") are used on end of menu captions.

Three dot leader "…" is indistinguishable from three periods "..." on the default font, but it is shown as three middle dots "···" on some fonts like Takao Gothic (fonts-takao-gothic).

summary: - Three dots readers "…" are used on menu captions.
+ Three dots readers "…" are used on menu captions
description: updated
summary: - Three dots readers "…" are used on menu captions
+ Three dot leader "…" are used on menu captions
description: updated
Lars Uebernickel (larsu) wrote :

Hi Koichi, thanks for taking the time to report this.

This is the "HORIZONTAL ELLIPSIS" character, and it's used exactly right in menu captions. Also, this character is used throughout the designs for the menus (for examples, see [1], [2] and [3]).

Takao Gothic is the first font I've heard of that gets this wrong. Usually, centered ellipses are only used in mathematical contexts [4]. There's a different unicode character for that ( U+22EF MIDLINE HORIZONTAL ELLIPSIS). I suggest you report a bug against that font.

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu
[2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundMenu
[3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printing
[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellipsis#In_mathematical_notation

Changed in indicator-datetime:
status: New → Won't Fix
Changed in indicator-printers:
status: New → Invalid
Changed in indicator-datetime:
status: Won't Fix → Invalid
Changed in indicator-session:
status: New → Invalid
Koichi Akabe (vbkaisetsu) wrote :

In Japanese, three dot leader is used as three middle dots in many situation, and many Japanese fonts use middle dots. (e.g. fonts-takao, vl-gothic, fonts-vlgothic, fonts-mikachan, fonts-yozvox-yozfont ...)
It's difficult to change design of fonts.

And I think three dot leader is unique on this situation. Almost applications use three periods in menus.

Lars Uebernickel (larsu) wrote :

As I said, the midline horizontal ellipsis character should be used for middle dots. That's why unicode specifies two different characters. It wouldn't make sense not to use a character for its intended meaning just because some fonts fail to render it correctly.

Its usage is not at all unique to the indicator menus. Many applications are (correctly) using this character as a replacement for three dots. There are even strings in gtk+ that contain it.

Koichi Akabe (vbkaisetsu) wrote :

Okay, I reported it to lp:956016

Lars Uebernickel (larsu) wrote :

Thanks :)

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