Activity log for bug #386150

Date Who What changed Old value New value Message
2009-06-11 23:01:07 David Siegel bug added bug
2009-06-11 23:01:07 David Siegel attachment added Default Nautilus http://launchpadlibrarian.net/27797607/default_nautilus.png
2009-06-11 23:01:41 David Siegel attachment added simple_nautilus.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/27797625/simple_nautilus.png
2009-06-11 23:02:05 David Siegel attachment added simpler_nautilus.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/27797630/simpler_nautilus.png
2009-06-11 23:02:26 David Siegel summary Nautilus file browser is complicated, redundant, and ugly Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly
2009-06-11 23:03:50 David Siegel description By default, Nautilus's file browser displays a side pane, a status bar, and two toolbars (a "Main Toolbar" and a "Location Bar"), not to mention a menu bar and the content area itself. This presents the user with a huge amount of complexity. I asked myself a few questions while looking at the default file browser: 1. Back, forward, up, stop, reload, home, zoom, a location bar -- these are the same controls available in my web browser that I know and love. Why do they look so different here? They take up so much more space, and they occupy two toolbars where my web browser needs only one. 2. What does the Stop button do? Reload? 3. Why do back, forward, up, stop, etc. have text labels? They don't have text labels in Firefox. The icons are good -- I recognize the symbols and understand what the buttons do. 4. Why do I have "Home" and "Computer" buttons when the same functionality is available and made much more useful in the side pane? That seems redundant. These questions prompted a very simple rearrangement of the default controls (see attachment simpler_nautilus.png). 1. It should be at least as simple to browse your local documents as it is to browse the Internet. I've combined the Navigation and Location toolbars into one. 2. I removed Stop. 3. I remove labels. The icons are salient and tooltips are available. 4. I left the home and computer buttons untouched, but removed them in another mockup (simpler_nautilus.png). What do you think? Can we simplify Nautilus, even if not this drastically? By default, Nautilus's file browser displays a side pane, a status bar, and two toolbars (a "Main Toolbar" and a "Location Bar"), not to mention a menu bar and the content area itself. This presents the user with a huge amount of complexity. I asked myself a few questions while looking at the default file browser: 1. Back, forward, up, stop, reload, home, zoom, a location bar -- these are the same controls available in my web browser that I know and love. Why do they look so different here? They take up so much more space, and they occupy two toolbars where my web browser needs only one. 2. What does the Stop button do? 3. Why do back, forward, up, stop, etc. have text labels? They don't have text labels in Firefox. The icons are good -- I recognize the symbols and understand what the buttons do. 4. Why do I have "Home" and "Computer" buttons when the same functionality is available and made much more useful in the side pane? That seems redundant. These questions prompted a very simple rearrangement of the default controls (see attachment simpler_nautilus.png). 1. It should be at least as simple to browse your local documents as it is to browse the Internet. I've combined the Navigation and Location toolbars into one. 2. I removed Stop. 3. I removed labels. The icons are salient and tooltips are available. 4. I left the home and computer buttons untouched, but removed them in another mockup (simpler_nautilus.png). What do you think? Can we simplify Nautilus, even if not this drastically?
2009-06-11 23:12:51 David Siegel attachment removed simpler_nautilus.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/27797630/simpler_nautilus.png
2009-06-11 23:14:02 David Siegel attachment added Simple Nautilus, take 2 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/27798051/simple_nautilus_2.png
2009-06-12 09:29:23 Mat Tomaszewski hundredpapercuts: importance Undecided High
2009-06-12 09:29:23 Mat Tomaszewski hundredpapercuts: status New Confirmed
2009-06-12 12:14:43 Sebastien Bacher bug task added nautilus (Ubuntu)
2009-06-12 12:14:56 Sebastien Bacher nautilus (Ubuntu): importance Undecided Wishlist
2009-06-12 12:14:56 Sebastien Bacher nautilus (Ubuntu): status New Confirmed
2009-06-12 12:14:56 Sebastien Bacher nautilus (Ubuntu): assignee Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs)
2009-06-17 07:49:30 Adrien Siebert attachment added cap taken from wikipedia http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28015174/ubuntu-thunar.png
2009-06-18 14:27:24 Michael Budde attachment added Tree view in Nautilus http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28065832/Screenshot-home%20-%20File%20Browser.png
2009-06-18 22:58:59 Laco Gubík attachment added Nautilus_mockup_1-zoom_up.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28077846/Nautilus_mockup_1-zoom_up.png
2009-06-18 23:00:17 Laco Gubík attachment added Nautilus_mockup_2-zoom_down.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28077867/Nautilus_mockup_2-zoom_down.png
2009-06-20 12:09:47 antistress bug watch added http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480379
2009-06-20 12:09:47 antistress bug watch added http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42834
2009-06-20 12:09:47 antistress bug watch added http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480382
2009-06-20 14:00:36 Nicolò Chieffo attachment added Screenshot-yelo3 - File Browser.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28142399/Screenshot-yelo3%20-%20File%20Browser.png
2009-06-20 14:52:03 antistress bug watch added http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=508404
2009-06-20 14:52:03 antistress bug watch added http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=576587
2009-06-21 11:06:01 Dilomo attachment added One Toolbar (real theme) http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28167727/Screenshot.png
2009-06-22 17:09:29 David Siegel hundredpapercuts: milestone round-4
2009-06-24 20:06:45 DM74S attachment added a mockup http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28301139/bozza.png
2009-06-25 18:36:53 SY removed subscriber SY
2009-06-25 21:06:51 DM74S attachment added home-personalfolder.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28380985/home-personalfolder.png
2009-06-27 14:38:32 Andreas Nilsson attachment added comparision between chrome and file area size http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28461826/nautilus-space-usage.png
2009-07-02 07:19:16 Serious removed subscriber Serious
2009-07-11 17:00:59 Sami Pesonen attachment added Nautilus mockup http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28914329/nautilus_mockup.png
2009-07-15 13:06:10 Andrew Conkling bug watch added http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=509660
2009-07-15 13:07:32 Andrew Conkling bug task added nautilus
2009-07-15 13:21:17 Bug Watch Updater nautilus: status Unknown Confirmed
2009-07-15 14:20:49 Sebastien Bacher nautilus (Ubuntu): status Confirmed Triaged
2009-07-16 11:06:02 Marcus Carlson attachment added nautilus-human.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29135180/nautilus-human.png
2009-07-16 21:12:25 Marcus Carlson attachment added states.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29160560/states.png
2009-07-17 05:49:36 Marcus Carlson attachment added icon-text.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29176640/icon-text.png
2009-07-18 06:59:36 Vish attachment added With Up Button.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29216372/With%20Up%20Button.png
2009-07-18 09:41:25 DM74S attachment added nautilus-human-danielsan.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29219356/nautilus-human-danielsan.png
2009-07-18 11:20:28 Vish attachment added Screenshot1.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29221040/Screenshot1.png
2009-07-19 17:53:10 antistress bug watch added http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428568
2009-07-20 20:44:06 Dread Knight tags gnome gui nautilus
2009-07-20 20:44:06 Dread Knight name nautilus-gui
2009-07-20 21:18:40 David Siegel hundredpapercuts: status Confirmed Invalid
2009-07-20 21:18:40 David Siegel hundredpapercuts: milestone round-4
2009-07-20 21:34:19 Michael Budde removed subscriber Michael Budde
2009-07-21 14:29:53 Vish summary Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, needs a face-lift
2009-07-21 14:29:53 Vish description By default, Nautilus's file browser displays a side pane, a status bar, and two toolbars (a "Main Toolbar" and a "Location Bar"), not to mention a menu bar and the content area itself. This presents the user with a huge amount of complexity. I asked myself a few questions while looking at the default file browser: 1. Back, forward, up, stop, reload, home, zoom, a location bar -- these are the same controls available in my web browser that I know and love. Why do they look so different here? They take up so much more space, and they occupy two toolbars where my web browser needs only one. 2. What does the Stop button do? 3. Why do back, forward, up, stop, etc. have text labels? They don't have text labels in Firefox. The icons are good -- I recognize the symbols and understand what the buttons do. 4. Why do I have "Home" and "Computer" buttons when the same functionality is available and made much more useful in the side pane? That seems redundant. These questions prompted a very simple rearrangement of the default controls (see attachment simpler_nautilus.png). 1. It should be at least as simple to browse your local documents as it is to browse the Internet. I've combined the Navigation and Location toolbars into one. 2. I removed Stop. 3. I removed labels. The icons are salient and tooltips are available. 4. I left the home and computer buttons untouched, but removed them in another mockup (simpler_nautilus.png). What do you think? Can we simplify Nautilus, even if not this drastically? ***************** This proposal is post-poned for now , Upstream Nautilus devs want to work on toolbar editor > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42834 The right place for any Comments/thoughts/suggestions regarding the design can be posted on, David Siegel's Blog> http://davidsiegel.org/nautilus-simplified/ A launchpad bug report is not the place for a debate about the design. Kindly post your suggestions at David's blog. Your feedback is valuable. ***************** By default, Nautilus's file browser displays a side pane, a status bar, and two toolbars (a "Main Toolbar" and a "Location Bar"), not to mention a menu bar and the content area itself. This presents the user with a huge amount of complexity. I asked myself a few questions while looking at the default file browser: 1. Back, forward, up, stop, reload, home, zoom, a location bar -- these are the same controls available in my web browser that I know and love. Why do they look so different here? They take up so much more space, and they occupy two toolbars where my web browser needs only one. 2. What does the Stop button do? 3. Why do back, forward, up, stop, etc. have text labels? They don't have text labels in Firefox. The icons are good -- I recognize the symbols and understand what the buttons do. 4. Why do I have "Home" and "Computer" buttons when the same functionality is available and made much more useful in the side pane? That seems redundant. These questions prompted a very simple rearrangement of the default controls (see attachment simpler_nautilus.png). 1. It should be at least as simple to browse your local documents as it is to browse the Internet. I've combined the Navigation and Location toolbars into one. 2. I removed Stop. 3. I removed labels. The icons are salient and tooltips are available. 4. I left the home and computer buttons untouched, but removed them in another mockup (simpler_nautilus.png). What do you think? Can we simplify Nautilus, even if not this drastically?
2009-07-21 14:30:49 Vish description ***************** This proposal is post-poned for now , Upstream Nautilus devs want to work on toolbar editor > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42834 The right place for any Comments/thoughts/suggestions regarding the design can be posted on, David Siegel's Blog> http://davidsiegel.org/nautilus-simplified/ A launchpad bug report is not the place for a debate about the design. Kindly post your suggestions at David's blog. Your feedback is valuable. ***************** By default, Nautilus's file browser displays a side pane, a status bar, and two toolbars (a "Main Toolbar" and a "Location Bar"), not to mention a menu bar and the content area itself. This presents the user with a huge amount of complexity. I asked myself a few questions while looking at the default file browser: 1. Back, forward, up, stop, reload, home, zoom, a location bar -- these are the same controls available in my web browser that I know and love. Why do they look so different here? They take up so much more space, and they occupy two toolbars where my web browser needs only one. 2. What does the Stop button do? 3. Why do back, forward, up, stop, etc. have text labels? They don't have text labels in Firefox. The icons are good -- I recognize the symbols and understand what the buttons do. 4. Why do I have "Home" and "Computer" buttons when the same functionality is available and made much more useful in the side pane? That seems redundant. These questions prompted a very simple rearrangement of the default controls (see attachment simpler_nautilus.png). 1. It should be at least as simple to browse your local documents as it is to browse the Internet. I've combined the Navigation and Location toolbars into one. 2. I removed Stop. 3. I removed labels. The icons are salient and tooltips are available. 4. I left the home and computer buttons untouched, but removed them in another mockup (simpler_nautilus.png). What do you think? Can we simplify Nautilus, even if not this drastically? ***************** This proposal is post-poned for now , Upstream Nautilus devs want to work on toolbar editor > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42834 The right place for any Comments/thoughts/suggestions regarding the design can be posted on, David Siegel's Blog> http://davidsiegel.org/nautilus-simplified/ A launchpad bug report is not the place for a debate about the design. Kindly post your suggestions in David's blog. Your feedback is valuable. ***************** By default, Nautilus's file browser displays a side pane, a status bar, and two toolbars (a "Main Toolbar" and a "Location Bar"), not to mention a menu bar and the content area itself. This presents the user with a huge amount of complexity. I asked myself a few questions while looking at the default file browser: 1. Back, forward, up, stop, reload, home, zoom, a location bar -- these are the same controls available in my web browser that I know and love. Why do they look so different here? They take up so much more space, and they occupy two toolbars where my web browser needs only one. 2. What does the Stop button do? 3. Why do back, forward, up, stop, etc. have text labels? They don't have text labels in Firefox. The icons are good -- I recognize the symbols and understand what the buttons do. 4. Why do I have "Home" and "Computer" buttons when the same functionality is available and made much more useful in the side pane? That seems redundant. These questions prompted a very simple rearrangement of the default controls (see attachment simpler_nautilus.png). 1. It should be at least as simple to browse your local documents as it is to browse the Internet. I've combined the Navigation and Location toolbars into one. 2. I removed Stop. 3. I removed labels. The icons are salient and tooltips are available. 4. I left the home and computer buttons untouched, but removed them in another mockup (simpler_nautilus.png). What do you think? Can we simplify Nautilus, even if not this drastically?
2009-07-21 14:52:59 Sancho Panza removed subscriber Sancho Panza
2009-07-21 16:27:14 David Siegel description ***************** This proposal is post-poned for now , Upstream Nautilus devs want to work on toolbar editor > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42834 The right place for any Comments/thoughts/suggestions regarding the design can be posted on, David Siegel's Blog> http://davidsiegel.org/nautilus-simplified/ A launchpad bug report is not the place for a debate about the design. Kindly post your suggestions in David's blog. Your feedback is valuable. ***************** By default, Nautilus's file browser displays a side pane, a status bar, and two toolbars (a "Main Toolbar" and a "Location Bar"), not to mention a menu bar and the content area itself. This presents the user with a huge amount of complexity. I asked myself a few questions while looking at the default file browser: 1. Back, forward, up, stop, reload, home, zoom, a location bar -- these are the same controls available in my web browser that I know and love. Why do they look so different here? They take up so much more space, and they occupy two toolbars where my web browser needs only one. 2. What does the Stop button do? 3. Why do back, forward, up, stop, etc. have text labels? They don't have text labels in Firefox. The icons are good -- I recognize the symbols and understand what the buttons do. 4. Why do I have "Home" and "Computer" buttons when the same functionality is available and made much more useful in the side pane? That seems redundant. These questions prompted a very simple rearrangement of the default controls (see attachment simpler_nautilus.png). 1. It should be at least as simple to browse your local documents as it is to browse the Internet. I've combined the Navigation and Location toolbars into one. 2. I removed Stop. 3. I removed labels. The icons are salient and tooltips are available. 4. I left the home and computer buttons untouched, but removed them in another mockup (simpler_nautilus.png). What do you think? Can we simplify Nautilus, even if not this drastically? ***************** This proposal is post-poned for now , Upstream Nautilus devs want to work on toolbar editor > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42834 The right place for any Comments/thoughts/suggestions regarding the design can be posted on the Ubuntu wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Design/Nautilus A Launchpad bug report is not the place for a debate about the design. Kindly post your suggestions on the wiki page. Your feedback is valuable. ***************** By default, Nautilus's file browser displays a side pane, a status bar, and two toolbars (a "Main Toolbar" and a "Location Bar"), not to mention a menu bar and the content area itself. This presents the user with a huge amount of complexity. I asked myself a few questions while looking at the default file browser: 1. Back, forward, up, stop, reload, home, zoom, a location bar -- these are the same controls available in my web browser that I know and love. Why do they look so different here? They take up so much more space, and they occupy two toolbars where my web browser needs only one. 2. What does the Stop button do? 3. Why do back, forward, up, stop, etc. have text labels? They don't have text labels in Firefox. The icons are good -- I recognize the symbols and understand what the buttons do. 4. Why do I have "Home" and "Computer" buttons when the same functionality is available and made much more useful in the side pane? That seems redundant. These questions prompted a very simple rearrangement of the default controls (see attachment simpler_nautilus.png). 1. It should be at least as simple to browse your local documents as it is to browse the Internet. I've combined the Navigation and Location toolbars into one. 2. I removed Stop. 3. I removed labels. The icons are salient and tooltips are available. 4. I left the home and computer buttons untouched, but removed them in another mockup (simpler_nautilus.png). What do you think? Can we simplify Nautilus, even if not this drastically?
2009-12-01 02:31:53 Caloy hundredpapercuts: assignee Caloy (printafter)
2009-12-01 02:33:12 Caloy hundredpapercuts: assignee Caloy (printafter)
2010-05-04 20:49:47 Daniele Napolitano removed subscriber Daniele Napolitano
2010-07-06 12:04:46 Bug Watch Updater nautilus: status Confirmed Invalid
2010-07-06 12:28:57 Sebastien Bacher nautilus (Ubuntu): assignee Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs)
2010-09-15 19:41:00 Bug Watch Updater nautilus: status Invalid Expired
2010-09-15 19:41:00 Bug Watch Updater nautilus: importance Unknown Medium
2011-05-06 15:38:13 Jonathan Blackhall removed subscriber Jonathan Blackhall
2011-09-26 06:10:52 Dmitry Shachnev nautilus (Ubuntu): status Triaged Fix Released
2011-09-26 06:52:45 David removed subscriber David