| 2009-02-22 17:11:09 |
Noel J. Bergman |
bug |
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| 2009-02-22 17:22:06 |
Charlie Kravetz |
update-notifier: status |
New |
Confirmed |
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| 2009-02-22 17:22:06 |
Charlie Kravetz |
update-notifier: importance |
Undecided |
High |
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| 2009-02-22 17:22:06 |
Charlie Kravetz |
update-notifier: statusexplanation |
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I am confirming this bug report. I too feel that removing the update-notifier is more a move in the direction of degrading Ubuntu. At least with the update-notifier-icon, I made the decision to install the updates. If the update-manager simply opens, I will have to continue with the work I am doing. Since I have several applications that run when my system starts, having update-manager think I want to run it is not really a desired function. I normally run my updates when I am not busy.
This appears to be one more thing getting in the way of productive work. I have to wonder how many businesses are going to decide that is just one more thing in the way. Doesn't that give the average business and personal user one more reason to quit using Ubuntu? |
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| 2009-02-23 12:56:07 |
Matthew Paul Thomas |
update-notifier: status |
Confirmed |
Invalid |
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| 2009-02-23 12:56:07 |
Matthew Paul Thomas |
update-notifier: statusexplanation |
I am confirming this bug report. I too feel that removing the update-notifier is more a move in the direction of degrading Ubuntu. At least with the update-notifier-icon, I made the decision to install the updates. If the update-manager simply opens, I will have to continue with the work I am doing. Since I have several applications that run when my system starts, having update-manager think I want to run it is not really a desired function. I normally run my updates when I am not busy.
This appears to be one more thing getting in the way of productive work. I have to wonder how many businesses are going to decide that is just one more thing in the way. Doesn't that give the average business and personal user one more reason to quit using Ubuntu? |
Curses, our secret plan has been uncovered! Canonical is indeed trying to degrade Ubuntu, make it less secure, and drive average business and personal users away. The orange star icon was a paragon of obviousness and clickability, so it just had to go.
But seriously, we did not design this behavior yesterday on the back of a napkin. We discussed it publicly at the Ubuntu Developer Summit in December. It's part of a long-term plan to clean up the notification area, and in particular to stop using it for things that it cannot actually recognizably notify people of. If you have learned to both notice and recognize the orange star icon, then I'm sorry that skill will no longer be required, but we think making update installation more obvious will make Ubuntu more secure for more people.
Of course the new behavior is a bit rough around the edges, but the problems are fixable. As I write this, the auto-opening interval is being changed (now that we know it works) from two days to seven. Compiz needs fixing so that when windows open unfocused (as Update Manager does when it opens automatically) they're in the background too. And any patches to reduce Update Manager's memory footprint are more than welcome. |
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| 2009-02-26 12:07:20 |
Fernando Miguel |
update-notifier: status |
Invalid |
New |
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| 2009-02-26 12:07:20 |
Fernando Miguel |
update-notifier: statusexplanation |
Curses, our secret plan has been uncovered! Canonical is indeed trying to degrade Ubuntu, make it less secure, and drive average business and personal users away. The orange star icon was a paragon of obviousness and clickability, so it just had to go.
But seriously, we did not design this behavior yesterday on the back of a napkin. We discussed it publicly at the Ubuntu Developer Summit in December. It's part of a long-term plan to clean up the notification area, and in particular to stop using it for things that it cannot actually recognizably notify people of. If you have learned to both notice and recognize the orange star icon, then I'm sorry that skill will no longer be required, but we think making update installation more obvious will make Ubuntu more secure for more people.
Of course the new behavior is a bit rough around the edges, but the problems are fixable. As I write this, the auto-opening interval is being changed (now that we know it works) from two days to seven. Compiz needs fixing so that when windows open unfocused (as Update Manager does when it opens automatically) they're in the background too. And any patches to reduce Update Manager's memory footprint are more than welcome. |
since discussion on the devel ML tended to a possibility of having UN back, i'm setting this to NEW. |
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| 2009-03-16 16:56:42 |
Michael Vogt |
displayname |
Bug #332945 |
Bug #332945 (update-notifier-autolaunch) |
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| 2009-03-16 16:56:42 |
Michael Vogt |
name |
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update-notifier-autolaunch |
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| 2009-03-18 22:11:03 |
Brian Curtis |
update-notifier: importance |
High |
Wishlist |
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| 2009-03-18 22:11:03 |
Brian Curtis |
update-notifier: statusexplanation |
since discussion on the devel ML tended to a possibility of having UN back, i'm setting this to NEW. |
Although I understand the high importance of this bug, this is really a wishlist bug as the removal of update notifier is what has been planned and you are requesting that it be reversed. |
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| 2009-03-19 12:25:55 |
Brian Curtis |
update-notifier: status |
New |
Confirmed |
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| 2009-03-19 12:25:55 |
Brian Curtis |
update-notifier: importance |
Wishlist |
High |
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| 2009-03-19 12:25:55 |
Brian Curtis |
update-notifier: statusexplanation |
Although I understand the high importance of this bug, this is really a wishlist bug as the removal of update notifier is what has been planned and you are requesting that it be reversed. |
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| 2009-03-26 04:07:06 |
Scott Kitterman |
bug |
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assigned to ubuntu-release-notes |
| 2009-03-26 12:59:56 |
Sarah Kowalik |
bug task added |
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update-notifier (Ubuntu Jaunty) |
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| 2009-03-26 16:03:44 |
Steve Beattie |
update-notifier: assignee |
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dxteam |
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| 2009-03-26 16:03:44 |
Steve Beattie |
update-notifier: statusexplanation |
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Assigning to the dxteam, per the regression tracking process. |
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| 2009-03-26 16:06:45 |
Steve Beattie |
update-notifier: assignee |
dxteam |
canonical-dx-team |
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| 2009-03-26 16:06:45 |
Steve Beattie |
update-notifier: statusexplanation |
Assigning to the dxteam, per the regression tracking process. |
Bah, sorry, assigned to the wrong team. |
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| 2009-03-27 19:30:59 |
Mark Shuttleworth |
update-notifier (Ubuntu Jaunty): status |
Confirmed |
Won't Fix |
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| 2009-03-27 19:32:02 |
Mark Shuttleworth |
summary |
[Jaunty] Removal of Update Notifier is WRONG |
[Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information |
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| 2009-03-27 19:32:28 |
Mark Shuttleworth |
ubuntu-release-notes: importance |
Undecided |
Low |
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| 2009-04-02 12:17:26 |
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| 2009-04-05 17:30:15 |
Andres Mujica |
description |
I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed by:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html
Specific messages worth reading are:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html
Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
* When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
* When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
were actually installed then).
* When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
automatically at all.
Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the thread.
Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly desirable, won't it?
In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon should be displayed when updates are available. |
I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed by:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html
Specific messages worth reading are:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html
Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
* When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
* When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
were actually installed then).
* When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
automatically at all.
Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the thread.
Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly desirable, won't it?
In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon should be displayed when updates are available.
To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour use:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
Take into account that this gconf change is not supported. |
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| 2009-04-08 19:55:27 |
Mark Shuttleworth |
update-notifier (Ubuntu): status |
Confirmed |
Won't Fix |
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| 2009-04-10 00:12:10 |
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Steve Langasek |
ubuntu-release-notes: status |
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| 2009-04-20 15:12:15 |
Steve Langasek |
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| 2009-04-25 14:40:52 |
Vish |
description |
I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed by:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html
Specific messages worth reading are:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html
Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
* When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
* When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
were actually installed then).
* When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
automatically at all.
Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the thread.
Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly desirable, won't it?
In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon should be displayed when updates are available.
To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour use:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
Take into account that this gconf change is not supported. |
I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed by:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html
Specific messages worth reading are:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html
Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
* When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
* When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
were actually installed then).
* When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
automatically at all.
Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the thread.
Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly desirable, won't it?
In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon should be displayed when updates are available.
To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour use:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
To have the update manager launch immediately when updates are available,use this:
$ gconftool -s --type string /apps/update-notifier/regular_auto_launch_interval 0
Take into account that this gconf change is not supported. |
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| 2009-04-25 14:41:54 |
Vish |
description |
I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed by:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html
Specific messages worth reading are:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html
Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
* When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
* When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
were actually installed then).
* When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
automatically at all.
Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the thread.
Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly desirable, won't it?
In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon should be displayed when updates are available.
To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour use:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
To have the update manager launch immediately when updates are available,use this:
$ gconftool -s --type string /apps/update-notifier/regular_auto_launch_interval 0
Take into account that this gconf change is not supported. |
I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed by:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html
Specific messages worth reading are:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html
Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
* When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
* When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
were actually installed then).
* When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
automatically at all.
Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the thread.
Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly desirable, won't it?
In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon should be displayed when updates are available.
1]To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour use:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
Take into account that this gconf change is not supported.
2]To have the update manager launch immediately when updates are available,use this:
$ gconftool -s --type string /apps/update-notifier/regular_auto_launch_interval 0 |
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| 2009-04-27 17:26:13 |
Moritz Baumann |
description |
I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed by:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html
Specific messages worth reading are:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html
Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
* When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
* When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
were actually installed then).
* When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
automatically at all.
Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the thread.
Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly desirable, won't it?
In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon should be displayed when updates are available.
1]To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour use:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
Take into account that this gconf change is not supported.
2]To have the update manager launch immediately when updates are available,use this:
$ gconftool -s --type string /apps/update-notifier/regular_auto_launch_interval 0 |
I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed by:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html
Specific messages worth reading are:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html
Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
* When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
* When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
were actually installed then).
* When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
automatically at all.
Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the thread.
Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly desirable, won't it?
In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon should be displayed when updates are available.
1]To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour use:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
Take into account that this gconf change is not supported.
2]To have the update manager launch immediately when updates are available, use this:
gconftool -s --type string /apps/update-notifier/regular_auto_launch_interval 0 |
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Vish |
description |
I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed by:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html
Specific messages worth reading are:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html
Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
* When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
* When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
were actually installed then).
* When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
automatically at all.
Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the thread.
Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly desirable, won't it?
In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon should be displayed when updates are available.
1]To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour use:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
Take into account that this gconf change is not supported.
2]To have the update manager launch immediately when updates are available, use this:
gconftool -s --type string /apps/update-notifier/regular_auto_launch_interval 0 |
I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed by:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html
Specific messages worth reading are:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html
Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
* When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
* When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
were actually installed then).
* When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
automatically at all.
Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the thread.
Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly desirable, won't it?
In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon should be displayed when updates are available.
1]To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour use:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
Take into account that this gconf change is not supported.
2]To have the update manager launch immediately when updates are available, use this:
gconftool -s --type int /apps/update-notifier/regular_auto_launch_interval 0 |
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Strongman332 |
nominated for series |
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| 2009-06-23 08:38:31 |
Przemek K. |
summary |
[Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information |
[Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information / new update-manager behaviour is annoying |
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| 2009-06-23 11:25:39 |
Paul Sladen |
bug task added |
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| 2009-06-23 11:43:46 |
Paul Sladen |
description |
I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed by:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html
Specific messages worth reading are:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html
Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
* When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
* When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
were actually installed then).
* When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
automatically at all.
Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the thread.
Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly desirable, won't it?
In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon should be displayed when updates are available.
1]To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour use:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
Take into account that this gconf change is not supported.
2]To have the update manager launch immediately when updates are available, use this:
gconftool -s --type int /apps/update-notifier/regular_auto_launch_interval 0 |
*********************************************
For anyone who REALLY wants to revert to the pre-Ubuntu 9.04 behaviour, you may run:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
*********************************************
I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed by:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html
Specific messages worth reading are:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html
Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
* When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
* When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
were actually installed then).
* When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
automatically at all.
Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the thread.
Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly desirable, won't it?
In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon should be displayed when updates are available.
1]To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour use:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
Take into account that this gconf change is not supported.
2]To have the update manager launch immediately when updates are available, use this:
gconftool -s --type int /apps/update-notifier/regular_auto_launch_interval 0 |
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| 2009-06-23 13:53:09 |
Paul Sladen |
description |
*********************************************
For anyone who REALLY wants to revert to the pre-Ubuntu 9.04 behaviour, you may run:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
*********************************************
I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed by:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html
Specific messages worth reading are:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html
Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
* When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
* When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
were actually installed then).
* When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
automatically at all.
Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the thread.
Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly desirable, won't it?
In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon should be displayed when updates are available.
1]To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour use:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
Take into account that this gconf change is not supported.
2]To have the update manager launch immediately when updates are available, use this:
gconftool -s --type int /apps/update-notifier/regular_auto_launch_interval 0 |
*********************************************
For anyone who REALLY wants to revert to the pre-Ubuntu 9.04 behaviour, you may run:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
A partial fix for update-notifier is queued in bug #369198 awaiting help TESTING before it can go to Jaunty.
*********************************************
I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed by:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html
Specific messages worth reading are:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html
Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
* When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
* When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
were actually installed then).
* When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
automatically at all.
Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the thread.
Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly desirable, won't it?
In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon should be displayed when updates are available.
1]To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour use:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
Take into account that this gconf change is not supported.
2]To have the update manager launch immediately when updates are available, use this:
gconftool -s --type int /apps/update-notifier/regular_auto_launch_interval 0 |
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| 2009-06-23 16:57:33 |
Sancho Panza |
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| 2009-06-23 17:13:59 |
Matthew Paul Thomas |
description |
*********************************************
For anyone who REALLY wants to revert to the pre-Ubuntu 9.04 behaviour, you may run:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
A partial fix for update-notifier is queued in bug #369198 awaiting help TESTING before it can go to Jaunty.
*********************************************
I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed by:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html
Specific messages worth reading are:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html
Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
* When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
* When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
were actually installed then).
* When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
automatically at all.
Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the thread.
Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly desirable, won't it?
In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon should be displayed when updates are available.
1]To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour use:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
Take into account that this gconf change is not supported.
2]To have the update manager launch immediately when updates are available, use this:
gconftool -s --type int /apps/update-notifier/regular_auto_launch_interval 0 |
I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed by:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html
Specific messages worth reading are:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html
Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
* When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
* When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
were actually installed then).
* When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
automatically at all.
Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the thread.
Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly desirable, won't it?
In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon should be displayed when updates are available.
1]To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour use:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
Take into account that this gconf change is not supported.
2]To have the update manager launch immediately when updates are available, use this:
gconftool -s --type int /apps/update-notifier/regular_auto_launch_interval 0 |
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| 2009-06-23 17:27:06 |
Matthew Paul Thomas |
description |
I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed by:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html
Specific messages worth reading are:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html
Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
* When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
* When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
were actually installed then).
* When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
automatically at all.
Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the thread.
Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly desirable, won't it?
In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon should be displayed when updates are available.
1]To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour use:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
Take into account that this gconf change is not supported.
2]To have the update manager launch immediately when updates are available, use this:
gconftool -s --type int /apps/update-notifier/regular_auto_launch_interval 0 |
I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed by:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html
Specific messages worth reading are:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html
Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
* When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
* When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
were actually installed then).
* When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
automatically at all.
Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the thread.
Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly desirable, won't it?
In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon should be displayed when updates are available.
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The window currently opens far too often when security updates are available: this is because of bug 369198, which is awaiting testing before it can be fixed in Ubuntu 9.04.
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To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
(Take into account that this gconf change is not supported.)
To have the update manager launch immediately when updates are available, use this:
gconftool -s --type int /apps/update-notifier/regular_auto_launch_interval 0 |
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Matthew Paul Thomas |
tags |
dxteam notifications regression-potential |
notifications regression-potential |
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Matthew Paul Thomas |
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Matthew Paul Thomas |
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Esben Haabendal |
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Esben Haabendal |
null: status |
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| 2009-11-22 21:45:36 |
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Curtis Hovey |
update-notifier (Ubuntu): assignee |
Registry Administrators (registry) |
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Curtis Hovey |
update-notifier (Ubuntu Jaunty): assignee |
Registry Administrators (registry) |
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Curtis Hovey |
bug task deleted |
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