Hi I very much appreciate the assistance. Im ok getting into terminal & as long as its a copy and paste kinda deal, Im a gui user having moved over from windows but over the last few years I have gotten fairly familiar with what does what when it comes to ubuntu/linux... and have no problem busting out terminal or opening this or that in kate and doing some editing... I do not however have the ability to just buts out a terminal window and know what to type natively. here you go & thank you.. took a while to figure out how to get into the log files as root :) thanks again :) ***** lightdm.conf******* [SeatDefaults] greeter-session=unity-greeter user-session=ubuntu greeter-show-manual-login=true ******end******** ******lightdm.log***** [+0.00s] DEBUG: Logging to /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log [+0.00s] DEBUG: Starting Light Display Manager 1.10.1, UID=0 PID=1296 [+0.00s] DEBUG: Loading configuration dirs from /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d [+0.00s] DEBUG: Loading configuration from /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-greeter-wrapper.conf [+0.00s] DEBUG: Loading configuration from /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-guest-wrapper.conf [+0.00s] DEBUG: Loading configuration from /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-ubuntu.conf [+0.00s] DEBUG: Loading configuration from /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-unity-greeter.conf [+0.00s] DEBUG: Loading configuration from /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-xserver-command.conf [+0.00s] DEBUG: Loading configuration from /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/60-lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf [+0.00s] DEBUG: Loading configuration from /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/90-nvidia.conf [+0.00s] DEBUG: Loading configuration dirs from /usr/local/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d [+0.00s] DEBUG: Loading configuration dirs from /etc/xdg/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d [+0.00s] DEBUG: Loading configuration from /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/10-xubuntu.conf [+0.00s] DEBUG: Loading configuration from /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf [+0.00s] DEBUG: Using D-Bus name org.freedesktop.DisplayManager [+0.00s] DEBUG: Registered seat module xlocal [+0.00s] DEBUG: Registered seat module xremote [+0.00s] DEBUG: Registered seat module unity [+0.00s] DEBUG: Registered seat module surfaceflinger [+0.00s] DEBUG: Adding default seat [+0.00s] DEBUG: Seat: Starting [+0.00s] DEBUG: Seat: Creating greeter session [+0.00s] DEBUG: Seat: Creating display server of type x [+0.01s] DEBUG: Quitting Plymouth [+0.02s] DEBUG: Using VT 7 [+0.02s] DEBUG: Seat: Starting local X display on VT 7 [+0.02s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-0: Logging to /var/log/lightdm/x-0.log [+0.02s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-0: Writing X server authority to /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 [+0.02s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-0: Launching X Server [+0.02s] DEBUG: Launching process 1309: /usr/bin/X -core :0 -seat seat0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch [+0.02s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-0: Waiting for ready signal from X server :0 [+0.02s] DEBUG: Acquired bus name org.freedesktop.DisplayManager [+0.02s] DEBUG: Registering seat with bus path /org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0 [+0.05s] DEBUG: Loading users from org.freedesktop.Accounts [+0.05s] DEBUG: User /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User1001 added [+0.08s] DEBUG: User /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User1003 added [+0.10s] DEBUG: User /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User1000 added [+0.11s] DEBUG: User /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User1002 added [+2.09s] DEBUG: Got signal 10 from process 1309 [+2.09s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-0: Got signal from X server :0 [+2.09s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-0: Connecting to XServer :0 [+2.09s] DEBUG: Launching process 1499: /sbin/prime-offload [+2.09s] DEBUG: Process 1499 exited with return value 0 [+2.09s] DEBUG: Seat: Exit status of /sbin/prime-offload: 0 [+2.10s] DEBUG: Seat: Display server ready, starting session authentication [+2.10s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: Started with service 'lightdm-greeter', username 'lightdm' [+2.16s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: Authentication complete with return value 0: Success [+2.16s] DEBUG: Seat: Session authenticated, running command [+2.16s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: Running command /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-greeter-session /usr/sbin/unity-greeter [+2.16s] DEBUG: Creating shared data directory /var/lib/lightdm-data/lightdm [+2.16s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: Logging to /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log [+2.17s] DEBUG: Activating VT 7 [+2.17s] DEBUG: Activating login1 session /org/freedesktop/login1/session/c1 [+2.34s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: Greeter connected version=1.10.1 [+2.71s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: Greeter start authentication [+2.71s] DEBUG: Session pid=1748: Started with service 'lightdm', username '(null)' [+2.72s] DEBUG: Session pid=1748: Got 1 message(s) from PAM [+2.72s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: Prompt greeter with 1 message(s) [+2.76s] DEBUG: User /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User1003 changed [+2.81s] DEBUG: User /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User1000 changed [+6.27s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: Greeter start authentication for smbguest [+6.27s] DEBUG: Session pid=1748: Sending SIGTERM [+6.27s] DEBUG: Session pid=2326: Started with service 'lightdm', username 'smbguest' [+6.27s] DEBUG: Session pid=1748: Terminated with signal 15 [+6.27s] DEBUG: Session: Failed during authentication [+6.27s] DEBUG: Seat: Session stopped [+6.28s] DEBUG: Session pid=2326: Got 1 message(s) from PAM [+6.28s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: Prompt greeter with 1 message(s) [+6.59s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: Greeter start authentication for markc [+6.59s] DEBUG: Session pid=2326: Sending SIGTERM [+6.59s] DEBUG: Session pid=2379: Started with service 'lightdm', username 'markc' [+6.59s] DEBUG: Session pid=2326: Terminated with signal 15 [+6.59s] DEBUG: Session: Failed during authentication [+6.59s] DEBUG: Seat: Session stopped [+6.60s] DEBUG: Session pid=2379: Got 1 message(s) from PAM [+6.60s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: Prompt greeter with 1 message(s) [+6.87s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: Greeter start authentication for media [+6.87s] DEBUG: Session pid=2379: Sending SIGTERM [+6.87s] DEBUG: Session pid=2382: Started with service 'lightdm', username 'media' [+6.87s] DEBUG: Session pid=2379: Terminated with signal 15 [+6.87s] DEBUG: Session: Failed during authentication [+6.87s] DEBUG: Seat: Session stopped [+6.88s] DEBUG: Session pid=2382: Got 1 message(s) from PAM [+6.88s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: Prompt greeter with 1 message(s) [+7.12s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: Greeter start authentication for bob [+7.12s] DEBUG: Session pid=2382: Sending SIGTERM [+7.12s] DEBUG: Session pid=2385: Started with service 'lightdm', username 'bob' [+7.12s] DEBUG: Session pid=2382: Terminated with signal 15 [+7.12s] DEBUG: Session: Failed during authentication [+7.12s] DEBUG: Seat: Session stopped [+7.13s] DEBUG: Session pid=2385: Got 1 message(s) from PAM [+7.13s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: Prompt greeter with 1 message(s) [+10.73s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: Continue authentication [+10.77s] DEBUG: Session pid=2385: Authentication complete with return value 0: Success [+10.77s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: Authenticate result for user bob: Success [+10.77s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: User bob authorized [+10.77s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: Greeter requests session xubuntu [+10.77s] DEBUG: Seat: Stopping greeter; display server will be re-used for user session [+10.77s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: Sending SIGTERM [+10.79s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: Greeter closed communication channel [+10.79s] DEBUG: Session pid=1505: Exited with return value 0 [+10.79s] DEBUG: Seat: Session stopped [+10.79s] DEBUG: Seat: Greeter stopped, running session [+10.79s] DEBUG: Registering session with bus path /org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Session0 [+10.79s] DEBUG: Session pid=2385: Running command /usr/sbin/lightdm-session startxfce4 [+10.79s] DEBUG: Creating shared data directory /var/lib/lightdm-data/bob [+10.79s] DEBUG: Session pid=2385: Logging to .xsession-errors [+10.80s] DEBUG: Activating VT 7 [+10.80s] DEBUG: Activating login1 session /org/freedesktop/login1/session/c2 [+12.30s] DEBUG: User /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User1003 changed [+12.33s] DEBUG: User /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User1000 changed [+17.89s] DEBUG: User /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User1000 changed [+18.84s] DEBUG: User /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User1000 changed [+5037.99s] DEBUG: Seat: Locking [+5037.99s] DEBUG: Seat: Creating greeter session [+5037.99s] DEBUG: Seat: Creating display server of type x [+5037.99s] DEBUG: Using VT 8 [+5037.99s] DEBUG: Seat: Starting local X display on VT 8 [+5037.99s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-1: Logging to /var/log/lightdm/x-1.log [+5037.99s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-1: Writing X server authority to /var/run/lightdm/root/:1 [+5037.99s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-1: Launching X Server [+5037.99s] DEBUG: Launching process 6294: /usr/bin/X -core :1 -seat seat0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:1 -nolisten tcp vt8 -novtswitch [+5037.99s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-1: Waiting for ready signal from X server :1 [+5039.27s] DEBUG: Got signal 10 from process 6294 [+5039.27s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-1: Got signal from X server :1 [+5039.27s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-1: Connecting to XServer :1 [+5039.27s] DEBUG: Launching process 6297: /sbin/prime-offload [+5039.28s] DEBUG: Process 6297 exited with return value 0 [+5039.28s] DEBUG: Seat: Exit status of /sbin/prime-offload: 0 [+5039.28s] DEBUG: Seat: Display server ready, starting session authentication [+5039.29s] DEBUG: Session pid=6303: Started with service 'lightdm-greeter', username 'lightdm' [+5039.35s] DEBUG: Session pid=6303: Authentication complete with return value 0: Success [+5039.35s] DEBUG: Seat: Session authenticated, running command [+5039.35s] DEBUG: Session pid=6303: Running command /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-greeter-session /usr/sbin/unity-greeter [+5039.35s] DEBUG: Creating shared data directory /var/lib/lightdm-data/lightdm [+5039.35s] DEBUG: Session pid=6303: Logging to /var/log/lightdm/x-1-greeter.log [+5039.37s] DEBUG: Activating VT 8 [+5039.37s] DEBUG: Locking login1 session /org/freedesktop/login1/session/c2 [+5039.37s] DEBUG: Activating login1 session /org/freedesktop/login1/session/c3 [+5039.51s] DEBUG: Session pid=6303: Greeter connected version=1.10.1 [+5039.68s] DEBUG: Session pid=6303: Greeter start authentication for bob [+5039.68s] DEBUG: Session pid=6392: Started with service 'lightdm', username 'bob' [+5039.69s] DEBUG: Session pid=6392: Got 1 message(s) from PAM [+5039.69s] DEBUG: Session pid=6303: Prompt greeter with 1 message(s) [+6264.95s] DEBUG: Session pid=6303: Continue authentication [+6265.02s] DEBUG: Session pid=6392: Authentication complete with return value 0: Success [+6265.02s] DEBUG: Session pid=6303: Authenticate result for user bob: Success [+6265.02s] DEBUG: Session pid=6303: User bob authorized [+6265.02s] DEBUG: Session pid=6303: Greeter requests session xubuntu [+6265.02s] DEBUG: Seat: Returning to existing user session bob [+6265.02s] DEBUG: Unlocking login1 session /org/freedesktop/login1/session/c2 [+6265.02s] DEBUG: Activating VT 7 [+6265.45s] DEBUG: Seat: Stopping greeter [+6265.45s] DEBUG: Session pid=6303: Sending SIGTERM [+6265.45s] DEBUG: Activating login1 session /org/freedesktop/login1/session/c2 [+6265.45s] DEBUG: Session pid=6392: Exited with return value 0 [+6265.45s] DEBUG: Seat: Session stopped [+6265.48s] DEBUG: Session pid=6303: Greeter closed communication channel [+6265.48s] DEBUG: Session pid=6303: Exited with return value 0 [+6265.48s] DEBUG: Seat: Session stopped [+6265.48s] DEBUG: Seat: Stopping display server, no sessions require it [+6265.48s] DEBUG: Sending signal 15 to process 6294 [+6265.52s] DEBUG: Process 6294 exited with return value 0 [+6265.52s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-1: X server stopped [+6265.52s] DEBUG: Releasing VT 8 [+6265.52s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-1: Removing X server authority /var/run/lightdm/root/:1 [+6265.52s] DEBUG: Seat: Display server stopped [+6265.52s] CRITICAL: x_server_local_get_authority_file_path: assertion 'server != NULL' failed [+6265.52s] CRITICAL: x_server_get_address: assertion 'server != NULL' failed [+6265.52s] DEBUG: Launching process 6816: /sbin/prime-switch [+6265.60s] DEBUG: Process 6816 exited with return value 0 [+6265.60s] DEBUG: Seat: Exit status of /sbin/prime-switch: 0 ******* end *********