TO: gizmoguy, and others that feel the same way.  UBUNTU is NOT in
competition with Microsoft.
It is a shame that MS has a huge market share  with, what most of us feel,
is very poor quality programming, "lousy code".
Next: UBUNTU is a not-for-profit movement. Thanks to Mark Shuttleworth and
his vision !!!
Learn more about some of the hardware that is not and may never be supported
by Linux / UBUNTU.. There is a lot of crappy hardware out there !

There is no O/S from MS that compares to LINUX, do some Googling, and find
out what's really going on.  Ask your tech if he/she uses Linux, all of the
good ones do and many feel that UBUNTU/GNOME is  over simplified (I
disagree)

a big hola! from sunny Mexico,
Allengg

On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 11:51 PM, thegizmoguy <email address hidden> wrote:

> In my opinion, for Ubuntu to be able to really do damage to microsoft,
> we need far greater support for hardware that is otherwise supported
> under Windows.  Yes, I understand that Ubuntu is generally refusing to
> use anything that is closed-source, but the average joe user does not
> care how his hardware is working- just that it's working.   8.10 is the
> first version of Ubuntu that i've even bothered trying to get working
> since I refused to do ndiswrapper hacks which were required with earlier
> versions of Ubuntu to get Broadcom wifi working.    And simply refusing
> to include basic codecs just because they are closed-source is just
> plain asinine.
>
> Second, Ubuntu needs to take a more proactive approach against bugs.
> Looking at all of the ones here, it seems only a fraction of legitimate
> ones get fixed.  Instead it appears the developers are more interested
> in pumping out new and pointless features (ala Vista).  Even right now I
> have 2 bugs and quirks out that shouldn't be present in an OS this
> mature (connecting to a WPA2 network and MAC address changing)....both
> of these have no problem in XP.  For further example, look at the
> *giant* bug right now with HP users having to hold down a key to boot
> the OS.  The kernel developers upstream have yet to even respond to the
> bug thread there and the only solution here is to do more config hacking
> and temporary fixes.
>
> So I'm sorry, if Ubuntu wants to get competitive we've got to start
> getting serious about making a "just works" OS like Windows has been for
> years
>
> --
> Microsoft has a majority market share
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in Club Distro: Confirmed
> Status in Computer Science Ubuntu: Confirmed
> Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians: Confirmed
> Status in JAK LINUX: Confirmed
> Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite: Invalid
> Status in Launchpad Translations: Invalid
> Status in Tabuntu: Confirmed
> Status in Ubuntu: In Progress
> Status in "bum" source package in Ubuntu: Invalid
> Status in "casper" source package in Ubuntu: Invalid
> Status in "djplay" source package in Ubuntu: Invalid
> Status in "firefox" source package in Ubuntu: Invalid
> Status in "ubuntu-express" source package in Ubuntu: Confirmed
> Status in The Breezy Badger: Invalid
> Status in The Dapper Drake: Invalid
> Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Confirmed
> Status in "linux" source package in Debian: Confirmed
> Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS: Confirmed
> Status in Tilix Linux: New
>
> Bug description:
> Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
> This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.
>
> Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry,
> restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and
> limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential,
> globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.
>
> Steps to repeat:
>
> 1. Visit a local PC store.
>
> What happens:
> 2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software
> pre-installed.
> 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.
>
> What should happen:
> 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like
> Ubuntu.
> 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and
> benefits would be apparent and known by all.
> 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.
>



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