To Gizmo : I have personally set up OpenOffice and Microsoft Office/123 on many computers. First: OpenOffice will read all of MS Office files, *MSOffice will not.* Next, everyone can use OpenOffice, I've given up trying to help users with MSOffice, I now switch them over, on the spot, and I can now do this over the phone. MSOffice is buggy and poorly written. Yes there are some problems with OPenOffice, like doing business cards. Upgrading Ubuntu is a waste of time. Much better to backup and do a new install. That's what USB sticks are for. No one that I've met has more than 2gigs of files. With Ubuntu there is no criminal warning that you can only do "one" install, on one machine. If you can't do the install get some tech that can. *And to repeat Ubuntu is easier to install than any flavour of MS Windows.* Allengg On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 11:36 PM, thegizmoguy