@faldegast. You are suggesting an approach that led to mandriva 's
downfall.
On Oct 22, 2010 10:26 AM, "Faldegast" <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> What i suggest for Ubuntu is the following:
>
> 1. A Ubuntu/Linux/Elf software store. It should be designed so that it
> can ship applications for many OS:es, not just Ubuntu.
>
> 2. A Ubuntu Pro commercial offering. Including boxed Ubuntu, a manual,
> and support. Also some commercial stuff like DVD player.
>
> Ubuntu currently has Fluendo Windows Media and MP3 Playback Pack, Fluendo
Complete Playback Pack and PowerDVD Linux in its online shop. These should
either be provided trough a software store, or included in "Ubuntu Pro".
> I would also see more commercial Linux applications there. For example i
know there is a Ubuntu version of Majesty. I know for sure that i would buy
that.
>
> 3. Both of above need a reseller plan. OEMs that preinstall a software
> store or Ubuntu Pro have to make money out of it. And Ubuntu pro should
> not be cheap.
>
> A software store and a commercial Linux with a distribution network is
> what we need. I am certain that this is exactly what we need. For
> servers we have RHEL but for clients the only thing available is
> Mandriva, but they effort to build a distribution network is to weak.
> They focus on an online store, and I believe thats their weakness.
> Operating Systems is OEM products and they are usually sold with
> computers, so we must target the OEM builders.
>
> While i have talked a lot about technology on this issue, technology is
> not a #1 bug issue. We have technology, what we need to fix bug #1 is
> marketing.
>
> There is no reason why Linux should have less usage share then OS X.
> Linux can run on much more hardware that OS X supports, and it have a
> great community.
>
> On another front, i think the idea of recycling old computers with
> Ubuntu and give them to those that cannot afford a brand new PC is
> excellent. I have done this a lot with lubuntu on really old computers.
> I also have a ThinLinc server that can be used to run applications that
> old computers are to weak to run. Its not fast enough for youtube,
> however they can play mpeg2. Perhaps an application like minitube can
> use a proxy server for transcoding to mpeg2 before a clip reach the old
> box?
>
>
>> Martin,
>>
>> True. Again i agree with that and i think we are in agreement again. So
the
>> various points people have made are valid except where we talk about
noobs
>> installing.
>>
>>
>> Surely a shop that installs to perhaps tens of machines has time to play
around
>> with even just 1 and has probably noticed all the quirkiness of
installing
>> Windows onto a wide range of very different machines and might realise
that
>> lack of knowledge might be the main barrier to a smoother install of
Ubuntu (or
>> other distro). Perhaps it is those people that we should target rather
than
>> normal users or people that do the odd one or two. Continuing to approach
both
>> is probably still best.
>>
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>
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> Microsoft has a majority market share
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> Bug description:
> Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
> This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.
>
> Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry,
restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and
limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential,
globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.
>
> Steps to repeat:
>
> 1. Visit a local PC store.
>
> What happens:
> 2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software
pre-installed.
> 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.
>
> What should happen:
> 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like
Ubuntu.
> 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and
benefits would be apparent and known by all.
> 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.
>
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