Thanks for your comments John, (see his blog: http://john-os.blogspot.com/ ) Some of us here see things a little differently. First, although Microsoft Corp., is not "evil" please ask yourself why so many fines and lawsuits have gone against the company in the last 5 years ???? see: http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=2005010107100653 Next, let me assure you that most of us are not "zealots", but open-minded people that desire a choice, an operating system that is well written, and to go through life without the harassment that the likes of Microsoft, burden us with. Open source as you advocate is much more that just revealing the code in a program. First, the overwhelming problem created by the U.S. Patent Office and the long line of lawsuits initiated by "Patent Trolls", is the real and basic problem. Most of us laud Microsoft for its' achievements, but are repulsed by some of its' tactics. Until the Patent System can change we will operate as a group seeking change, and hope that the current U.S. president has more common sense than his two predecessors. In the meantime John, keep up the good work, update your blog, and look at Ubuntu 8.10, Intrepid Ibex, it is the torch bearer of change ! Allengg On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:33 PM, John Pyper