@Draeath: If this bug did not exist, the Linux movement as we know it today wouldn't exist or at least would be scattered and not really have any support behind it. Microsoft and/or Windows is not bad or evil, it's just that Microsoft has this notion of bullying the OEMs to make hardware that works only with their platform or locks the OEMs into ungodly ridiculous contracts to include their operating system with new systems. Some manufacturers have decided to release systems with Ubuntu on them as test runs. Most notably, Dell, has it available for their low end notebooks and netbooks. I work for a sub-division of Dell called Managed Services. We have seen some of our customers request Ubuntu or other distributions of Linux to be included with their system purchases because they read on the net that Windows is always being attacked by a virus, trojan, malware or something similar. All in all, Canonical's movement with Ubuntu to 'fix' the BUG 1 problem is mostly to make normal end users aware that there is choice of operating systems available and advocate the freedom of software choice. I don't agree with this whole Linux vs Windows war and I do not support it one bit. I build systems to economically meet the customer's needs. If they want Windows to play the new games, I make it happen. I even make them aware that they can have an option to dual boot their system with Windows and Ubutu. I setup the Ubuntu installation using WUBI so that they can't do any damage to their system. Not satisified with Ubuntu? Boot Windows and uninstall it or delete the c:\Ubuntu directory and be done with it. It's all about having a choice. Demonstrate to people this freedom and let them make the final decision. I've babbled enough. Now it's your turn to exercise your right and make a decision in which direction you want to go. ***NOTE*** The words that I say in this message are not representing or endorsed by Dell in any way. These are my personal views. John Pyper Dell | Managed Services http://john-os.blogspot.com/ BaD_CrC on Freenode IRC Twitter: http://twitter.com/jpyper On 2/17/09, Draeath