Enchanting is not starting with User rights - with admin rights it's working

[Ludwig Schuster]

As is said in the Title,

in a school, where i want to use Enchanting - i only have user rights for the pupils. The admins installed enchanting, and under their accounts it works - but for the pupils, it won't.

how can i (or the admins) fix that?

thanks!

[Clinton Blackmore (clinton-blackmore)]

Interesting. Thank you, Ludwig, for bringing this to my attention.

Which operating system are you using, and which version of Enchanting?

If you go into the Enchanting folder (probably C:\Program Files
(x86)\Enchanting), you'll see there is a batch file called
"verbose_enchanting.windows.bat". Would you run it, once as an admin, and
once as a regular user, and collect the results (I think you can copy the
contents of the command window and paste it into a text file and attach it
to a reply e-mail) so I can analyze them?

Lastly, was this just a regular install of Enchanting, or has it been
repackaged or had other adjustments made to it? (Not that that should make
much difference).

If you need more detail or get stuck on any of the steps, please let me
know.

Cheers,
Clinton Blackmore

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:25 AM, Ludwig Schuster <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> Public bug reported:
>
> As is said in the Title,
>
> in a school, where i want to use Enchanting - i only have user rights
> for the pupils. The admins installed enchanting, and under their
> accounts it works - but for the pupils, it won't.
>
> how can i (or the admins) fix that?
>
> thanks!
>
> ** Affects: enchanting
> Importance: Undecided
> Status: New
>
> --
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to
> Enchanting.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/939354
>
> Title:
> Enchanting is not starting with User rights - with admin rights it's
> working
>
> Status in Enchanting:
> New
>
> Bug description:
> As is said in the Title,
>
> in a school, where i want to use Enchanting - i only have user rights
> for the pupils. The admins installed enchanting, and under their
> accounts it works - but for the pupils, it won't.
>
> how can i (or the admins) fix that?
>
> thanks!
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/enchanting/+bug/939354/+subscriptions
>

[Ludwig Schuster (mailludwigschuster)]

thanks,

ist the latest release of enchanting and windows xp.

i'll check your tips and forward ir to zhe school admins.

Grüße,

Ludwig Schuster
(Von einem Handy gesendet.)

Am 23.02.2012 um 16:17 schrieb Clinton Blackmore <email address hidden>:

> Interesting. Thank you, Ludwig, for bringing this to my attention.
>
> Which operating system are you using, and which version of Enchanting?
>
> If you go into the Enchanting folder (probably C:\Program Files
> (x86)\Enchanting), you'll see there is a batch file called
> "verbose_enchanting.windows.bat". Would you run it, once as an admin, and
> once as a regular user, and collect the results (I think you can copy the
> contents of the command window and paste it into a text file and attach it
> to a reply e-mail) so I can analyze them?
>
> Lastly, was this just a regular install of Enchanting, or has it been
> repackaged or had other adjustments made to it? (Not that that should make
> much difference).
>
> If you need more detail or get stuck on any of the steps, please let me
> know.
>
> Cheers,
> Clinton Blackmore
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:25 AM, Ludwig Schuster <
> <email address hidden>> wrote:
>
>> Public bug reported:
>>
>> As is said in the Title,
>>
>> in a school, where i want to use Enchanting - i only have user rights
>> for the pupils. The admins installed enchanting, and under their
>> accounts it works - but for the pupils, it won't.
>>
>> how can i (or the admins) fix that?
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> ** Affects: enchanting
>> Importance: Undecided
>> Status: New
>>
>> --
>> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to
>> Enchanting.
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/939354
>>
>> Title:
>> Enchanting is not starting with User rights - with admin rights it's
>> working
>>
>> Status in Enchanting:
>> New
>>
>> Bug description:
>> As is said in the Title,
>>
>> in a school, where i want to use Enchanting - i only have user rights
>> for the pupils. The admins installed enchanting, and under their
>> accounts it works - but for the pupils, it won't.
>>
>> how can i (or the admins) fix that?
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/enchanting/+bug/939354/+subscriptions
>>
>
> --
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug
> report.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/939354
>
> Title:
> Enchanting is not starting with User rights - with admin rights it's
> working
>
> Status in Enchanting:
> New
>
> Bug description:
> As is said in the Title,
>
> in a school, where i want to use Enchanting - i only have user rights
> for the pupils. The admins installed enchanting, and under their
> accounts it works - but for the pupils, it won't.
>
> how can i (or the admins) fix that?
>
> thanks!
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/enchanting/+bug/939354/+subscriptions

[Ludwig Schuster (mailludwigschuster)]

Hi there, this is the network admin @ PKS

As requested find attached the command output from running the batch file mentioned as admin vs run as student.

We are running Windows XP with all updates and SP installed, all other software is also up to date, including Java.
Regards
Stefan Schnegg

Am 23.02.2012 um 16:17 schrieb Clinton Blackmore:

> Interesting. Thank you, Ludwig, for bringing this to my attention.
>
> Which operating system are you using, and which version of Enchanting?
>
> If you go into the Enchanting folder (probably C:\Program Files
> (x86)\Enchanting), you'll see there is a batch file called
> "verbose_enchanting.windows.bat". Would you run it, once as an admin, and
> once as a regular user, and collect the results (I think you can copy the
> contents of the command window and paste it into a text file and attach it
> to a reply e-mail) so I can analyze them?
>
> Lastly, was this just a regular install of Enchanting, or has it been
> repackaged or had other adjustments made to it? (Not that that should make
> much difference).
>
> If you need more detail or get stuck on any of the steps, please let me
> know.
>
> Cheers,
> Clinton Blackmore
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:25 AM, Ludwig Schuster <
> <email address hidden>> wrote:
>
>> Public bug reported:
>>
>> As is said in the Title,
>>
>> in a school, where i want to use Enchanting - i only have user rights
>> for the pupils. The admins installed enchanting, and under their
>> accounts it works - but for the pupils, it won't.
>>
>> how can i (or the admins) fix that?
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> ** Affects: enchanting
>> Importance: Undecided
>> Status: New
>>
>> --
>> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to
>> Enchanting.
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/939354
>>
>> Title:
>> Enchanting is not starting with User rights - with admin rights it's
>> working
>>
>> Status in Enchanting:
>> New
>>
>> Bug description:
>> As is said in the Title,
>>
>> in a school, where i want to use Enchanting - i only have user rights
>> for the pupils. The admins installed enchanting, and under their
>> accounts it works - but for the pupils, it won't.
>>
>> how can i (or the admins) fix that?
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/enchanting/+bug/939354/+subscriptions
>>
>
> --
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug
> report.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/939354
>
> Title:
> Enchanting is not starting with User rights - with admin rights it's
> working
>
> Status in Enchanting:
> New
>
> Bug description:
> As is said in the Title,
>
> in a school, where i want to use Enchanting - i only have user rights
> for the pupils. The admins installed enchanting, and under their
> accounts it works - but for the pupils, it won't.
>
> how can i (or the admins) fix that?
>
> thanks!
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/enchanting/+bug/939354/+subscriptions

[Ludwig Schuster (mailludwigschuster)]

Hi there, this is the network admin @ PKS

As requested find attached the command output from running the batch file mentioned as admin vs run as student.

We are running Windows XP with all updates and SP installed, all other software is also up to date, including Java.
Regards
Stefan Schnegg

[Ludwig Schuster (mailludwigschuster)]

Hi there, this is the network admin @ PKS

As requested find attached the command output from running the batch file mentioned as admin vs run as student.

We are running Windows XP with all updates and SP installed, all other software is also up to date, including Java.
Regards
Stefan Schnegg

[Ludwig Schuster (mailludwigschuster)]

Sorry for double-posting. i was unsure, if the mail with the attachments came through. it was originally send on Feb. 24. as a copy but that one did not came through. i manually forwarded it now und also used this direct way to upload the stuff.

Thanks for helping, and again sorry for double posting.

Ludwig

[Ludwig Schuster (mailludwigschuster)]

Hi Clinton,

any updates on my Problem? Did you get the logfiles?

Thanks,
Ludwig Schuster

Am 23.02.2012 um 16:17 schrieb Clinton Blackmore:

> Interesting. Thank you, Ludwig, for bringing this to my attention.
>
> Which operating system are you using, and which version of Enchanting?
>
> If you go into the Enchanting folder (probably C:\Program Files
> (x86)\Enchanting), you'll see there is a batch file called
> "verbose_enchanting.windows.bat". Would you run it, once as an admin, and
> once as a regular user, and collect the results (I think you can copy the
> contents of the command window and paste it into a text file and attach it
> to a reply e-mail) so I can analyze them?
>
> Lastly, was this just a regular install of Enchanting, or has it been
> repackaged or had other adjustments made to it? (Not that that should make
> much difference).
>
> If you need more detail or get stuck on any of the steps, please let me
> know.
>
> Cheers,
> Clinton Blackmore
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:25 AM, Ludwig Schuster <
> <email address hidden>> wrote:
>
>> Public bug reported:
>>
>> As is said in the Title,
>>
>> in a school, where i want to use Enchanting - i only have user rights
>> for the pupils. The admins installed enchanting, and under their
>> accounts it works - but for the pupils, it won't.
>>
>> how can i (or the admins) fix that?
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> ** Affects: enchanting
>> Importance: Undecided
>> Status: New
>>
>> --
>> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to
>> Enchanting.
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/939354
>>
>> Title:
>> Enchanting is not starting with User rights - with admin rights it's
>> working
>>
>> Status in Enchanting:
>> New
>>
>> Bug description:
>> As is said in the Title,
>>
>> in a school, where i want to use Enchanting - i only have user rights
>> for the pupils. The admins installed enchanting, and under their
>> accounts it works - but for the pupils, it won't.
>>
>> how can i (or the admins) fix that?
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/enchanting/+bug/939354/+subscriptions
>>
>
> --
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug
> report.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/939354
>
> Title:
> Enchanting is not starting with User rights - with admin rights it's
> working
>
> Status in Enchanting:
> New
>
> Bug description:
> As is said in the Title,
>
> in a school, where i want to use Enchanting - i only have user rights
> for the pupils. The admins installed enchanting, and under their
> accounts it works - but for the pupils, it won't.
>
> how can i (or the admins) fix that?
>
> thanks!
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/enchanting/+bug/939354/+subscriptions

[Clinton Blackmore (clinton-blackmore)]

Hi Ludwig.

I looked into the issue tonight. I compared the logs you provided, and
then tried it out on my Windows XP computer, where I was unable to recreate
the issue.

Are these just regular "limited" users for Windows XP? They aren't, say,
some sort of network account of managed account, or have anything else
unusual about them, do they?

Cheers,
Clinton

On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 12:21 AM, Ludwig Schuster <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> Hi Clinton,
>
> any updates on my Problem? Did you get the logfiles?
>
> Thanks,
> Ludwig Schuster
>
> Am 23.02.2012 um 16:17 schrieb Clinton Blackmore:
>
> > Interesting. Thank you, Ludwig, for bringing this to my attention.
> >
> > Which operating system are you using, and which version of Enchanting?
> >
> > If you go into the Enchanting folder (probably C:\Program Files
> > (x86)\Enchanting), you'll see there is a batch file called
> > "verbose_enchanting.windows.bat". Would you run it, once as an admin,
> and
> > once as a regular user, and collect the results (I think you can copy the
> > contents of the command window and paste it into a text file and attach
> it
> > to a reply e-mail) so I can analyze them?
> >
> > Lastly, was this just a regular install of Enchanting, or has it been
> > repackaged or had other adjustments made to it? (Not that that should
> make
> > much difference).
> >
> > If you need more detail or get stuck on any of the steps, please let me
> > know.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Clinton Blackmore
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:25 AM, Ludwig Schuster <
> > <email address hidden>> wrote:
> >
> >> Public bug reported:
> >>
> >> As is said in the Title,
> >>
> >> in a school, where i want to use Enchanting - i only have user rights
> >> for the pupils. The admins installed enchanting, and under their
> >> accounts it works - but for the pupils, it won't.
> >>
> >> how can i (or the admins) fix that?
> >>
> >> thanks!
> >>
> >> ** Affects: enchanting
> >> Importance: Undecided
> >> Status: New
> >>
> >> --
> >> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to
> >> Enchanting.
> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/939354
> >>
> >> Title:
> >> Enchanting is not starting with User rights - with admin rights it's
> >> working
> >>
> >> Status in Enchanting:
> >> New
> >>
> >> Bug description:
> >> As is said in the Title,
> >>
> >> in a school, where i want to use Enchanting - i only have user rights
> >> for the pupils. The admins installed enchanting, and under their
> >> accounts it works - but for the pupils, it won't.
> >>
> >> how can i (or the admins) fix that?
> >>
> >> thanks!
> >>
> >> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/enchanting/+bug/939354/+subscriptions
> >>
> >
> > --
> > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug
> > report.
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/939354
> >
> > Title:
> > Enchanting is not starting with User rights - with admin rights it's
> > working
> >
> > Status in Enchanting:
> > New
> >
> > Bug description:
> > As is said in the Title,
> >
> > in a school, where i want to use Enchanting - i only have user rights
> > for the ...

[Ludwig Schuster (mailludwigschuster)]

Hi Clinton.

I suppose these are Network-accounts in a Domain. I wrote the admins, and hopefully get an quick answer. If they are just regular network-accounts with user rights - or if they have special limitations.
Could you imagine which limitations on normal Network-accounts are the Problem? Or could you test it with a "normal" Network-account?

thanks,
Ludwig

Am 04.03.2012 um 06:34 schrieb Clinton Blackmore:

> Hi Ludwig.
>
> I looked into the issue tonight. I compared the logs you provided, and
> then tried it out on my Windows XP computer, where I was unable to recreate
> the issue.
>
> Are these just regular "limited" users for Windows XP? They aren't, say,
> some sort of network account of managed account, or have anything else
> unusual about them, do they?
>
> Cheers,
> Clinton
>
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 12:21 AM, Ludwig Schuster <
> <email address hidden>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Clinton,
>>
>> any updates on my Problem? Did you get the logfiles?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ludwig Schuster
>>
>> Am 23.02.2012 um 16:17 schrieb Clinton Blackmore:
>>
>>> Interesting. Thank you, Ludwig, for bringing this to my attention.
>>>
>>> Which operating system are you using, and which version of Enchanting?
>>>
>>> If you go into the Enchanting folder (probably C:\Program Files
>>> (x86)\Enchanting), you'll see there is a batch file called
>>> "verbose_enchanting.windows.bat". Would you run it, once as an admin,
>> and
>>> once as a regular user, and collect the results (I think you can copy the
>>> contents of the command window and paste it into a text file and attach
>> it
>>> to a reply e-mail) so I can analyze them?
>>>
>>> Lastly, was this just a regular install of Enchanting, or has it been
>>> repackaged or had other adjustments made to it? (Not that that should
>> make
>>> much difference).
>>>
>>> If you need more detail or get stuck on any of the steps, please let me
>>> know.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Clinton Blackmore
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:25 AM, Ludwig Schuster <
>>> <email address hidden>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Public bug reported:
>>>>
>>>> As is said in the Title,
>>>>
>>>> in a school, where i want to use Enchanting - i only have user rights
>>>> for the pupils. The admins installed enchanting, and under their
>>>> accounts it works - but for the pupils, it won't.
>>>>
>>>> how can i (or the admins) fix that?
>>>>
>>>> thanks!
>>>>
>>>> ** Affects: enchanting
>>>> Importance: Undecided
>>>> Status: New
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to
>>>> Enchanting.
>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/939354
>>>>
>>>> Title:
>>>> Enchanting is not starting with User rights - with admin rights it's
>>>> working
>>>>
>>>> Status in Enchanting:
>>>> New
>>>>
>>>> Bug description:
>>>> As is said in the Title,
>>>>
>>>> in a school, where i want to use Enchanting - i only have user rights
>>>> for the pupils. The admins installed enchanting, and under their
>>>> accounts it works - but for the pupils, it won't.
>>>>
>>>> how can i (or the admins) fix that?
>>>>
>>>> thanks!
>>>>
>>>> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
>>>> https://bugs.la...

[Clinton Blackmore (clinton-blackmore)]

Hi Ludwig.

I work as a system administrator for a Mac-based school division, and I
know we've had weird issues with network accounts. For example, Microsoft
Office (2003, 2008) gives users grief when they save files, some of the
time, unless the administrator creates a special, hidden folder at the root
of the file share. Or, Photoshop Elements wouldn't let network users
access all of the tools (and I'm not certain that we ever resolved that
one).

That said, I'd like Enchanting to work with network accounts, too. I
really don't know how I'd test it with Windows, though; I have vague ideas
as to what is involved in setting up a domain controller, but don't have
access to the software. [Hmm... I wonder if work does have access to it.]

In any event, I'd be happy to know if things work any different with a
local, non-admin account -- which I can/did test against -- but after that,
I may well need help diagnosing the problem.

Cheers,
Clinton

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:59 AM, Ludwig Schuster <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> Hi Clinton.
>
> I suppose these are Network-accounts in a Domain. I wrote the admins, and
> hopefully get an quick answer. If they are just regular network-accounts
> with user rights - or if they have special limitations.
> Could you imagine which limitations on normal Network-accounts are the
> Problem? Or could you test it with a "normal" Network-account?
>
> thanks,
> Ludwig
>
> Am 04.03.2012 um 06:34 schrieb Clinton Blackmore:
>
> > Hi Ludwig.
> >
> > I looked into the issue tonight. I compared the logs you provided, and
> > then tried it out on my Windows XP computer, where I was unable to
> recreate
> > the issue.
> >
> > Are these just regular "limited" users for Windows XP? They aren't, say,
> > some sort of network account of managed account, or have anything else
> > unusual about them, do they?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Clinton
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 12:21 AM, Ludwig Schuster <
> > <email address hidden>> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Clinton,
> >>
> >> any updates on my Problem? Did you get the logfiles?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Ludwig Schuster
> >>
> >> Am 23.02.2012 um 16:17 schrieb Clinton Blackmore:
> >>
> >>> Interesting. Thank you, Ludwig, for bringing this to my attention.
> >>>
> >>> Which operating system are you using, and which version of Enchanting?
> >>>
> >>> If you go into the Enchanting folder (probably C:\Program Files
> >>> (x86)\Enchanting), you'll see there is a batch file called
> >>> "verbose_enchanting.windows.bat". Would you run it, once as an admin,
> >> and
> >>> once as a regular user, and collect the results (I think you can copy
> the
> >>> contents of the command window and paste it into a text file and attach
> >> it
> >>> to a reply e-mail) so I can analyze them?
> >>>
> >>> Lastly, was this just a regular install of Enchanting, or has it been
> >>> repackaged or had other adjustments made to it? (Not that that should
> >> make
> >>> much difference).
> >>>
> >>> If you need more detail or get stuck on any of the steps, please let me
> >>> know.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Clinton Blackmore
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:25 AM, Ludwig Schuster <
> >>> m...