Hi :)
I thought hand-helds had over-taken desktops?  Surely that was the point?
So the majority of users are using non-Windows platforms.  Hence all the
fuss, in magazines and other articles, about "the end of the desktops"
(which i think we mostly agree is unlikely)
Regards from
Tom :)

On 27 October 2014 14:45, Faldegast <email address hidden> wrote:

> Yeah a lot of things have changed. But what's not changed are the fact
> that a majority of Internet users are surfing on Windows.
>
> Yeah I remember reading this bug on a Symbian smartphone. The growth of
> smartphones and pads are certainly an expression of discontent with
> Windows, and a big blow to Microsoft.
>
> But a majority of the users are still on desktops running windows. I
> hope that chromeos will defeat windows on this battlefield.
>
> Personally I will not consider this bug solved until Window joins
> Internet Explorer's decline, which I think will happen if ChromeOS
> success continues.
>
> > Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 12:42:10 +0000
> > From: <email address hidden>
> > To: <email address hidden>
> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-marketing] [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority
> market share
> >
> > Hi :)
> > When this bug was first posted even laptops were quite rare.  So the only
> > form-factor that people were aware of was desktops.  It is already
> > difficult to imagine such a time!
> >
> > It was after this bug was posted that netbooks came out and they were
> > swiftly crushed by clever tactics from MS.  Do you remember going through
> > that time?  It was unthinkable that normal users might have access to
> > anything non-MS.  That is what this bug-report is about.
> >
> > If the original poster could go back in time then i am certain there
> would
> > have been at least 3 bug-reports in order to still apply today.  Almost
> > everyone who posted to this thread was basing their responses on the
> solid
> > fact that desktop machines were the only form-factor available to normal
> > users.
> >
> > This bug-report was about reaching normal users.
> >
> > As such it HAS been solved.
> >
> > Now the whole landscape has changed radically.  There are new words to
> > cover technology that hadn't been anticipated outside of Sci-fi.  Many of
> > the responses are laughably wrong these days but were quite wise at the
> > time.
> >
> >
> > We have an opportunity to recognise that things were different back in
> the
> > old days and an opportunity to cut away legacy stuff that is no longer
> > useful.
> >
> > Continuing with this thread would be much like keeping a bug-report open
> > about support for Betamax systems or even VHS ones.  While technically
> not
> > solved it has become largely irrelevant because it fails to account for
> the
> > new landscape.  Of course 1 slight difference is that people still have
> > movies that were recorded onto Betamx or VHS ;)
> >
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> >
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> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
> >
> > Title:
> >   Microsoft has a majority market share
> >
> > Status in Club Distro:
> >   Confirmed
> > Status in Computer Science Ubuntu:
> >   Confirmed
> > Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite:
> >   New
> > Status in dylan.NET.Reflection:
> >   Invalid
> > Status in dylan.NET:
> >   Invalid
> > Status in EasyPeasy Overview:
> >   Invalid
> > Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians:
> >   Invalid
> > Status in JAK LINUX:
> >   Invalid
> > Status in LibreOffice:
> >   In Progress
> > Status in The Linux Kernel:
> >   New
> > Status in The Linux Mint Distribution:
> >   In Progress
> > Status in The Linux OS Project:
> >   In Progress
> > Status in Neobot:
> >   New
> > Status in Novabot:
> >   New
> > Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite:
> >   In Progress
> > Status in Tabuntu:
> >   Invalid
> > Status in A simple player to online TV streaming:
> >   Invalid
> > Status in Tv-Player:
> >   Invalid
> > Status in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team Meta Project:
> >   In Progress
> > Status in Ubuntu:
> >   Fix Released
> > Status in Arch Linux:
> >   Confirmed
> > Status in Baltix GNU/Linux:
> >   Invalid
> > Status in “linux” package in Debian:
> >   In Progress
> > Status in Fedora:
> >   Confirmed
> > Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS:
> >   Confirmed
> > Status in openSUSE:
> >   In Progress
> > Status in Tilix Linux:
> >   New
> >
> > Bug description:
> >   See Mark's closure comment here:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1/comments/1834
> >   ------
> >
> >   Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC
> >   marketplace. This is a bug which Ubuntu and other projects are meant
> >   to fix. As the philosophy of the Ubuntu Project states, "Our work is
> >   driven by a belief that software should be free and accessible to
> >   all."
> >
> >   "Ubuntu software is free. Always was, always will be. Free software
> gives everyone the freedom to use it however they want and share with
> whoever they like. This freedom has huge benefits. At one end of the
> spectrum it enables the Ubuntu community to grow and share its collective
> experience and expertise to continually improve all things Ubuntu. At the
> other, we are able to give access to essential software for those who
> couldn’t otherwise afford it – an advantage that’s keenly felt by
> individuals and organisations all over the world."
> >        * http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy
> >
> >   Non-free software leaves users at the mercy of the software owner and
> >   concentrates control over the technology which powers our society into
> >   the hands of a few. Additionally, proprietary software stifles
> >   innovation, maintains artificial scarcities, and enables malicious
> >   anti-features such as DRM, surveillance, and other monopolistic
> >   practices.
> >
> >   This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.
> >
> >   Steps to repeat:
> >
> >       1. Visit a local PC store.
> >       2. Attempt to buy a machine without any proprietary software.
> >
> >   What happens:
> >
> >   Almost always, a majority of PCs for sale have Microsoft Windows pre-
> >   installed. In the rare cases that they come with a GNU/Linux operating
> >   system or no operating system at all, the drivers and BIOS may be
> >   proprietary.
> >
> >   What should happen:
> >
> >   A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software.
> >
> >        * http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
> >        * http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
> >        * http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd
> >
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> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug
> report.
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>
> Title:
>   Microsoft has a majority market share
>
> Status in Club Distro:
>   Confirmed
> Status in Computer Science Ubuntu:
>   Confirmed
> Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite:
>   New
> Status in dylan.NET.Reflection:
>   Invalid
> Status in dylan.NET:
>   Invalid
> Status in EasyPeasy Overview:
>   Invalid
> Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians:
>   Invalid
> Status in JAK LINUX:
>   Invalid
> Status in LibreOffice:
>   In Progress
> Status in The Linux Kernel:
>   New
> Status in The Linux Mint Distribution:
>   In Progress
> Status in The Linux OS Project:
>   In Progress
> Status in Neobot:
>   New
> Status in Novabot:
>   New
> Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite:
>   In Progress
> Status in Tabuntu:
>   Invalid
> Status in A simple player to online TV streaming:
>   Invalid
> Status in Tv-Player:
>   Invalid
> Status in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team Meta Project:
>   In Progress
> Status in Ubuntu:
>   Fix Released
> Status in Arch Linux:
>   Confirmed
> Status in Baltix GNU/Linux:
>   Invalid
> Status in “linux” package in Debian:
>   In Progress
> Status in Fedora:
>   Confirmed
> Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS:
>   Confirmed
> Status in openSUSE:
>   In Progress
> Status in Tilix Linux:
>   New
>
> Bug description:
>   See Mark's closure comment here:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1/comments/1834
>   ------
>
>   Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC
>   marketplace. This is a bug which Ubuntu and other projects are meant
>   to fix. As the philosophy of the Ubuntu Project states, "Our work is
>   driven by a belief that software should be free and accessible to
>   all."
>
>   "Ubuntu software is free. Always was, always will be. Free software
> gives everyone the freedom to use it however they want and share with
> whoever they like. This freedom has huge benefits. At one end of the
> spectrum it enables the Ubuntu community to grow and share its collective
> experience and expertise to continually improve all things Ubuntu. At the
> other, we are able to give access to essential software for those who
> couldn’t otherwise afford it – an advantage that’s keenly felt by
> individuals and organisations all over the world."
>        * http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy
>
>   Non-free software leaves users at the mercy of the software owner and
>   concentrates control over the technology which powers our society into
>   the hands of a few. Additionally, proprietary software stifles
>   innovation, maintains artificial scarcities, and enables malicious
>   anti-features such as DRM, surveillance, and other monopolistic
>   practices.
>
>   This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.
>
>   Steps to repeat:
>
>       1. Visit a local PC store.
>       2. Attempt to buy a machine without any proprietary software.
>
>   What happens:
>
>   Almost always, a majority of PCs for sale have Microsoft Windows pre-
>   installed. In the rare cases that they come with a GNU/Linux operating
>   system or no operating system at all, the drivers and BIOS may be
>   proprietary.
>
>   What should happen:
>
>   A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software.
>
>        * http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
>        * http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
>        * http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/clubdistro/+bug/1/+subscriptions
>