new options for provost's report

[Teffania]

see also: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonlore/+bug/501221

hi,

In the further quest for a version of the OP that will fit in the royal's book (just one of the uses of the provosts's report), it would be VERY useful if it was an option to show only primary names, and not list alternate names at all. Note the show alias option turns on listing aliases under the main name entry. This request is to not show any listings for these aliases at all. eg Teffania de Tuckerton would appear, but Tiffany of St Monicas would not.

If it is easy a second request is to optionally not display all royal cyphers and similar awards. I would supply a list of 6-10 awards to be excluded, if a programmer can confirm this is easy.

[Eric TF Bat (bat-flurf)]

Fixed the "don't show alternate names" option, which only half worked. Not looking at the second part yet, until I have more details.

[Teffania (teffania)]

reminder : this is low prioity

see similar report, for different purpose: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonlore/+bug/501221

For this condensed report, exlusions:
county types: (everyone knows, you aren't going to give them out again by accident)
#104, #103, #102

cypher types (how many you have doesn't determine your likelyihood of getting more):
#230, #111, #320, #413, #172, #279, #303, #149, #229, #48, #50, #198, #112, #231, #319, #414, #435, #32, #278, #302, #150, #476, #10, #41, #138, #37, #291, #39, #264, #341, #350

Roughly LOG & roll of honor equivalents: (how many you have doesn't determine your likelyihood of getting more):
#332, #232, #433, #40, #309, #283, #246, #198, #300, #415, #84

Wreaths & similar: (how many you have doesn't determine your likelyihood of getting more):
#36, #14, #31, #108

Also all plebian awards and honours from other kingdoms than Lochac West and Caid (may well exclude a lot of the above)

There may be other awards too, but I'll be able to see once these ones are excluded.

Add a piece of text when this option is enabled eg
"For the sake of brevity, many awards have been excluded from the list, including counties, duchies, vicounties, all forms of cyphers and foreign awards reoughly equivalent to the LOG, plebian awards and honours from other kingdoms and wreaths given at crown tournaments."

If possible, exclude these from the listing of awards at the end of the report too.

[Teffania (teffania)]

fixing of alternate names drop priority to low or wishlist.

Additon to above list: wreath type #101

[Teffania (teffania)]

(oops, i didn't realise there would be so many cypher types!)

[Teffania (teffania)]

The continued valuable listing of the awards list in the royal book is dependant upon the editing job for Katherine Kerr being quite small. Which means having automated options which are quite similar to the desired output.

On additional consultation, most important to Katherine would be:
*replace hard carriage returns in output with soft carriage returns.
(in this case output does not have to be a webpage - a seperate variety of report could be produced if that is preferred)

Also most useful would be:
*replace group names with abbreviations where possible eg Poliarchopolis>Polit
*replace group names where used in a sca name with abbreviations where possible eg Poliarchopolis>Polit
*do not display group names where person name contains group name
*do not display group names where group is dead

I believe carriage returns are most critical. The other items are not dependant upon each other - any easier ones that can be implemented earlier should be.

[Paul Harrison (paul-francis-harrison)]

I've hidden branches that have a "became".

I've hidden the branch when it's (fully, exactly) contained in the person's name.

Not sure how abbreviations should work. User supplied list?

Not sure what the distinction between hard and soft carriage returns is here, or what negative effect it has. The underlying HTML the page is a somewhat abused definition list, semantic markup mixed with tags specifying the specific appearance of some things in a big tasty soup ... if cut and pasted into a word processor, I have very little idea what it will make of it. A mozilla-specific stylesheet extension is used to display columns. Any of this is easily changed, or it could even be produced from a customizable html template. HTML does have boring old <p> paragraphs and <br/> line breaks, which would map into hard and soft carriage returns, I am guessing.

[Teffania (teffania)]

On 4 April 2011 19:23, Paul Harrison <email address hidden> wrote:
> I've hidden branches that have a "became".
>
> I've hidden the branch when it's (fully, exactly) contained in the
> person's name.

I probably should have noted - these are the desired options for the
royal book report. The provosts or royals or group heralds who use
this for different purposes might not want these abbreviations. As
such they would probably be best as a tickbox option if that is fairly
easy. Could be all under a single tickbox or "royal book" or "very
abbreviated" etc. Are tickboxes or similar easy? Or am I just spoiled
by Bat's last version?

> Not sure how abbreviations should work. User supplied list?

definately user supplied list. will supply a list shortly. for test purposes:
Krae Glas - KG
politarchopolis - polit
southron gaard - SG
Stormhold - SH
Willoughbyvale - WV

Full list soon

> Not sure what the distinction between hard and soft carriage returns is
> here, or what negative effect it has.

 I believe from a word processing perspective, hard carriage returns
probably prevent easy adjustment of line spacing.
↵ Is a hard carriage return I think
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carriage_return)

disadvantages thereof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_return

>A mozilla-specific stylesheet  extension is
> used to display columns. Any of this is easily changed, or it could even
> be produced from a customizable html template. HTML does have boring old
> <p> paragraphs and <br/> line breaks, which would map into hard and soft
> carriage returns, I am guessing.

wikipedia says so:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_return

Teffania

[Canon Herald (canon-lochac)]

Abbreviations:

-remember, not all useages will want to use abbreviations, the option
of full group names is important.

those used previously by Katherine kerr in the royal book (note a
couple of groups now dead):
Abert : Abertridwr
BH : Blessed Herman the Cripple
Bordes : Bordescros
Bosen : Bosenberg
BW : Bacchus Wood
Castellum Mont : Castellum Montanum
Innil : Innilgard
KG : Krae Glas
Morden : Mordenvale
Polit : Politarchopolis
RH : River Haven
SF : Saint Florian de la Riviere
SG : Southron Gaard
SH : Stormhold
St Barts : St Bartholomew
WV : Willoughby Vale
YF : Ynys Fawr

A full listing of current lochac groups with my suggestions added to
and in some places replacing katherine's (her old ones in brackets for
my reference):

Current groups
Abertridwr - Abert.
Adora - no abbreviation
Agaricus - - no abbreviation
Aneala - no abbreviation
Arrowreach - AR
Bacchus Wood - BW
Bordescros - Bordes.
Bosenberg - Bosen.
Burnfield - BF
Cairn Fell - CF
Cluain - no abbreviation
Darton - no abbreviation
Dismal Fogs
Dragons Bay - DB
Ildhafn - no abbreviation
Innilgard - Innil.
Kraé Glas - KG
Mordenvale - Morden.
Politarchopolis - Polit.
River Haven - RH
Rowany - no abbreviation
Saint Aldhelm - St Ald.
Saint Bartholomew - St Bart.
Saint Basil the Great - St Basil
Saint Crispin - St Crispin
Saint Gildas the Wise - St Gilda
Saint Kessog - St Kessog
Saint Malachy - St Malachy
Saint Monica - St Mon.
Saint Ursula - St Ursula
Saint-Florian-de-la-rivière - St Floz. (SF)
Southron Gaard - SG
Stormhold - SH
Stowe on the Wowld - Stowe
Torlyon - no abbreviation
Willoughby Vale - WV
Ynys Fawr - YF

and in limbo (listed as current for political reasons):
Castellum Montanum : CM (Castellum Mont)

Closed groups that might occur in people's names for abbreviation:
Blessed Herman the Cripple - BH
Dubh Thrian - DT
Saint Julian the Hospitaller - St Julian

Hope this helps,
Tiffany

[Paul Harrison (paul-francis-harrison)]

I added some fields to the form to specify exactly the HTML you want.

For soft returns, I think it will be something like:

<b class="name"> NAME </b> OTHER STUFF <br>

If there's a particular way of doing this that works best, I'll make it the default.

[Paul Harrison (paul-francis-harrison)]

Added a field for abbreviations.

I guess Katherine needs to keep a text file of abbreviations, and copy and paste it into the relevant box.

Abertridwr : Abert.
Arrowreach : AR
Bacchus Wood : BW
Bordescros : Bordes.
Bosenberg : Bosen.
Burnfield : BF
Cairn Fell : CF
Dragons Bay : DB
Innilgard : Innil.
Kraé Glas : KG
Mordenvale : Morden.
Politarchopolis : Polit.
River Haven : RH
Saint Aldhelm : St Ald.
Saint Bartholomew : St Bart.
Saint Basil the Great : St Basil
Saint Crispin : St Crispin
Saint Gildas the Wise : St Gilda
Saint Kessog : St Kessog
Saint Malachy : St Malachy
Saint Monica : St Mon.
Saint Ursula : St Ursula
Saint-Florian-de-la-rivière : St Floz. (SF)
Southron Gaard : SG
Stormhold : SH
Stowe on the Wowld : Stowe
Willoughby Vale : WV
Ynys Fawr : YF
Blessed Herman the Cripple : BH
Dubh Thrian : DT
Saint Julian the Hospitaller : St Julian

[Paul Harrison (paul-francis-harrison)]

Still to do on this bug:

*replace group names where used in a sca name with abbreviations where possible eg Poliarchopolis>Polit