consider allowing calibredb read-only methods to run despite calibre running

[botmtl]

could you consider allowing calibredb for the following methods even if "Another calibre program such as calibre-server.exe or the main calibre program is running."
- list
- show_metadata
- export (not sure if it's r.o.)
- catalog
- saved_searches
- list_categories
- search

[botmtl (botmtl)]

I should have added that I was attempting to list the methods that looked like they made no changes to the database and thus should be safe to call in that context.

[Kovid Goyal (kovid)]

There is no method that makes no changes to the database. Simply opening
a database can make changes to it (schema upgrades happen automatically
on database open).

 status wontfix

[botmtl (botmtl)]

The more I think about it, the more my own question irritates me and the
stupider it gets. I apologize for not assuming competence. I really
didn't mean to do that, and did not realize that's what's I was doing until
I thought about it some. Contrary to what teachers tell us, there are
stupid questions... I just proved it.

On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 11:20 PM, Kovid Goyal <email address hidden>
wrote:

> There is no method that makes no changes to the database. Simply opening
> a database can make changes to it (schema upgrades happen automatically
> on database open).
>
> status wontfix
>
> ** Changed in: calibre
> Status: New => Won't Fix
>
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>
> Title:
> consider allowing calibredb read-only methods to run despite calibre
> running
>
> Status in calibre:
> Won't Fix
>
> Bug description:
> could you consider allowing calibredb for the following methods even if
> "Another calibre program such as calibre-server.exe or the main calibre
> program is running."
> - list
> - show_metadata
> - export (not sure if it's r.o.)
> - catalog
> - saved_searches
> - list_categories
> - search
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/calibre/+bug/1772293/+subscriptions
>

[Kovid Goyal (kovid)]

Not at all, it's a natural mistake to make. Lots of software does not do
automatic schema updates, requiring manual intervention from users for
it.

[botmtl (botmtl)]

What I meant is that I didn't assume competence. Of course there are valid
reasons you blocked theses functions from working, you didn't suddenly
become lazy and decided it would be easier just to block everything (which
is not what I was thinking... at least not consciously, but it's what I
asked amounts too, reflecting back... and the reason I apologized).

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:41 PM, Kovid Goyal <email address hidden>
wrote:

> Not at all, it's a natural mistake to make. Lots of software does not do
> automatic schema updates, requiring manual intervention from users for
> it.
>
> --
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug
> report.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1772293
>
> Title:
> consider allowing calibredb read-only methods to run despite calibre
> running
>
> Status in calibre:
> Won't Fix
>
> Bug description:
> could you consider allowing calibredb for the following methods even if
> "Another calibre program such as calibre-server.exe or the main calibre
> program is running."
> - list
> - show_metadata
> - export (not sure if it's r.o.)
> - catalog
> - saved_searches
> - list_categories
> - search
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/calibre/+bug/1772293/+subscriptions
>

[Kovid Goyal (kovid)]

Dont worry, part of writing open source software is developing a thick
 sin, it did not even occur to me you were being insulting. But the
 apology is appreciated nonetheless :)