[needs-packaging] Entropy

[Roman Polach]

Request for package: Entropy

http://entropy.stop1984.com/en/home.html

Anonymous P2P software, supports the Freenet Client Protocol (FCP)

[Joe Drew (hoserhead)]

On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 17:59, Michael Beattie wrote:
> * Package name : entropy
> Description : Emerging Network To Reduce Orwellian Potency Yield

This doesn't really tell me anything about ENTROPY. How about
"anti-censorship network client"?

> ENTROPY is developed as a response to increasing censorship and surveillance
> in the internet. The program connects your computer to a network of machines
> which all run this software. The ENTROPY network is running parallel to the
> WWW and also other internet services like FTP, email, ICQ. etc.

The acronym ENTROPY should be defined in the first line of the long
description.

> For the user the ENTROPY network looks like a collection of WWW pages. The
> difference to the WWW however is that there are no accesses to central
> servers. And this is why there is no site operator who could log who
> downloaded what and when. Every computer taking part in the ENTROPY network
> (every node) is at the same time server, router for other nodes, caching proxy
> and client for the user: that is You.
>
> After you gained some experience with the ENTROPY network, there are command
> line tools for you to insert whole directory trees into the network as a
> ENTROPY site. So ENTROPY does for you what a webspace provider does for you in
> the WWW - but without the storage and bandwidth costs and without any
> regulation or policy as to what kind of content you are allowed to publish.
> Everyone can contribute his own ENTROPY site for everybody else to browse
> through. The contents is stored in a distributed manner across all available
> and reachable nodes and no one can find out about who put up what contents
> into the network. Even if your node is not actively running, your contents
> can be retrieved by others -- without knowing that it was actually you who
> published the files. Of course this is only true if you do not publish your
> name (or leave your name or other personal data in the files you publish)

This is a good, though perhaps too detailed, long description.

A general (non-ITP-related) question: Is ENTROPY related to Freenet in
any way?

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[Michael Beattie (mjb)]

On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:18:39PM -0500, Joe Drew wrote:
> This doesn't really tell me anything about ENTROPY. How about
> "anti-censorship network client"?

That would do.

> The acronym ENTROPY should be defined in the first line of the long
> description.

Right, better than the short description.

[snip]

> This is a good, though perhaps too detailed, long description.

Taken directly from the web page... (I'm lazy)

> A general (non-ITP-related) question: Is ENTROPY related to Freenet in
> any way?

It supports the freenet protocol, yes. But it's written in C, not Java.

I actually havent had a chance to package it yet, I've been too busy at
work. If anyone else wants to take this one, feel free, just let me know.
I'll retitle it to RFP in a week or two if I dont get a chance to get to it.

Mike.
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[Henning Makholm (henning-makholm)]

Scripsit Mike Beattie <email address hidden>

> > This is a good, though perhaps too detailed, long description.

> Taken directly from the web page... (I'm lazy)

The description left me wondering whether this is just anonter
peer-to-peer filesharing network, or there is something else to
it. Either way, it should probably be mentioned in the description.
If it *is* just another p2p, then explicitly mentioning this in the
beginning of the description will save the reader the trouble of
recognising the concept in an explanation from basic principles.
If it is something else than just another p2p, the difference should
probably be stated explicitly.

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                            flickvän. Det är ju som att skaffa en hundvalp."

[Branden Robinson (branden)]

On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:49:36PM +1300, Mike Beattie wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:18:39PM -0500, Joe Drew wrote:
> > A general (non-ITP-related) question: Is ENTROPY related to Freenet in
> > any way?
>
> It supports the freenet protocol, yes. But it's written in C, not Java.

Ah, that's good. One of Freenet's biggest barriers to adoption has been
the perverse selection of Java for an implementation language.

The last 2 or 3 times I tried to play with Freenet, I ran into problems
caused, depending on your point of view, by:

1) Free Java implementations sucking;
2) An obsessive dedication on the part of Freenet developers to using
   features only available or operational in Sun's JDK (non-free,
   naturally)

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[Michael Beattie (mjb)]

retitle 220301 RFP: entropy -- Emerging Network To Reduce Orwellian Potency Yield
thanks

Turns out I don't use this, so someone who does should package it.

Mike.
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Mike Beattie <email address hidden> ZL4TXK, IRLP Node 6184

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[David Moreno Garza (damog-cerdita)]

Hello,

This is an automatic mail sent to close the RFP you have reported or
are involved with.

Your RFP wnpp bug is being closed because of the following reasons:
- It is, as of today, older than 600 days.
- It haven't had any activity recently.
- The amount of ITPs on the Debian BTS is huge and we need to
  clean up a bit the place.

As this an automatic procedure, it could of course have something
wrong and probably it would be closing some bugs that are not
intended by owners and submitters (like you) to be closed, for
example if the RFP is still of your interest, or there has been
some kind of activity around it. In that case, please reopen the
bug, do it, DO IT NOW! (I don't want to be blamed because of
mass closing and not let people know that they can easily reopen
their bugs ;-).

To re-open it, you simply have to mail <email address hidden>
with a body text like this:

reopen 123456
thanks bts

Replacing '123456' for the number of your RFP bug. The subject of the
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you on this: <email address hidden>.

This is the first mass wnpp closing that will be done. The next close
will be done on inactive RFPs older than 450 days and finally, the
ones older than 365 days (an automatic script will close *inactive*
RFPs when they reach one year old).

A similar process is being applied to the ITP wnpp bugs in these
days.

Thanks for your cooperation,

 -- David Moreno Garza <email address hidden> Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:54:42 -0500

[Roman Polach (rpolach)]

Request for package: Entropy

http://entropy.stop1984.com/en/home.html

Anonymous P2P software, supports the Freenet Client Protocol (FCP)

[Allisson Azevedo (allisson)]

Invalid url.

[Roman Polach (rpolach)]

Project is closed upstream.

from http://slashdot.org/yro/04/07/10/1458202.shtml :

"In a disappointing move to privacy enthusiasts, the Entropy Project's creator has released a statement that the project is shutting down. Entropy was a very popular, and some say faster, alternative to Freenet which supported a number of different cryptographic protocols. The creator alluded to the possibility that the project could continue if a new owner could be found."