Draggable window borders too narrow in greybird

Bug #897912 reported by seahen
12
This bug affects 2 people
Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
murrine-themes (Ubuntu)
Won't Fix
Undecided
Simon Steinbeiß

Bug Description

In the greybird, greybird-compat and smallscreen themes, the portion of a window border that can be dragged to resize the window is only one pixel wide. Clicking a one-pixel border on a 1280x1024 screen is tricky even for an able-bodied young man like me using a mouse, and would be impossible on a netbook or tablet. This is likely to be a turnoff for new Xubuntu users, since greybird is the default theme.

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Simon Steinbeiß (ochosi) wrote :

thanks for your bugreport.
this was a conscious design decision – at first the border was 2px wide, which made it (though only) slightly easier to grab.

with the system-wide introduction of resize-grips we rethought the 2px design and made the window-border 1px wide, since resize-grips are far easier to grab than even a 2px border. furthermore you can also resize windows on the top corners.
last but not least there are keyboard-shortcuts in xfwm4 to initiate a window-resize: holding alt and right-clicking/dragging a window resizes it.

Changed in murrine-themes (Ubuntu):
assignee: nobody → Simon Steinbeiß (simon-steinbeiss)
Changed in murrine-themes (Ubuntu):
status: New → Won't Fix
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Pasi Lallinaho (knome) wrote :

We are also planning Greybird-accessibility, which should include larger window borders for example. I hope we can build the accessibility version before Precise, as well as be asking the user to either use accessibility packages (including Greybird-a11y) or not, at installation.

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Matthew (astrochase) wrote :

This bug persists in 12.04.

Is it possible to create a wider invisible "virtual border" that is easier to grip? The workarounds do exist, but sometimes I just want to resize from only the left edge (without using a corner, which makes it harder not to change the height of the window) which is extremely difficult at present.

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Pasi Lallinaho (knome) wrote :

Matthew, the Alt+right-click method will change only the width of a window if you start the right-click-drag from the vertically middle area of the left side of the window.

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Simon Steinbeiß (ochosi) wrote :

Keyboard shortcuts also allow resizing only horizontally.
I know that the window-borders issue is of concern to many users, that's why I put together the methods for window-resizing recently: http://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/

(As this is a design decision, not a bug, I'll keep it as wontfix.)

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Kevin Seifert (sevkeifert) wrote :

I couldn't get used to using the alt-mouse method, so I just increased the border size to 4px on my system :)

http://sevkeifert.blogspot.com/2014/12/increase-window-border-size-in-xubuntu.html

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