xmms try to load libraries, wich not in Depends: but in Recommends:

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Automatically imported from Debian bug report #270984 http://bugs.debian.org/270984

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Automatically imported from Debian bug report #270984 http://bugs.debian.org/270984

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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:38:50 +0300
From: Vladimir Shahov <email address hidden>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <email address hidden>
Subject: xmms try to load libraries, wich not in Depends: but in Recommends:

Package: xmms
Version: 1.2.10-1
Severity: serious
Justification: Policy 3.5

[pc89]$ xmms
libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
directory
libvorbis.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
directory
Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/generic/dl-tls.c: 72:
_dl_next_tls_modid: Assertion `result <=
_rtld_local._dl_tls_max_dtv_idx' failed!

but in package xmms
<!-- apt-cache show xmms -->
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0), libgtk1.2 (>=
1.2.10-4), xlibs (>> 4.1.0) | libice6, xlibs (>> 4.1.0) | libsm6, xlibs
(>> 4.1.0) | libx11-6, xlibs (>> 4.1.0) | libxext6, xlibs (>> 4.1.0) |
libxi6
Recommends: libasound2 (>> 1.0.0), libaudiofile0 (>= 0.2.3-4), libesd0
(>= 0.2.29-1) | libesd-alsa0 (>= 0.2.29-1), libmikmod2 (>= 3.1.10),
libogg0 (>= 1.1.0), libvorbis0a (>= 1.0.1), libvorbisfile3 (>= 1.0.1),
xlibmesa3-gl | libgl1, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1)
<!-- end -->

After installing libmikmod2, libogg2, libvorbis0a, libvorbisfile3 by
hand - all perfect. Probably problems will be find in other Recommends:
packages also.

<!-- ~/.xmms/config -->
disabled_iplugins=libtonegen.so,libmikmod.so,libvorbis.so
<!-- end -->

PS: sorry for my ugly english

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.7-1-686
Locale: LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=ru_RU.UTF-8

Versions of packages xmms depends on:
ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-13 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii libglib1.2 1.2.10-9 The GLib library of C routines
ii libgtk1.2 1.2.10-17 The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets fo
ii libice6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii libsm6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System Session Management
ii libx11-6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System protocol client li
ii libxext6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System miscellaneous exte
ii libxi6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System Input extension li
ii xlibs 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System client libraries m

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[Matt Zimmerman (mdz)]

The errors about those libraries are unrelated to the failure, which is the
"inconsistency detected" error. Doesn't happen on Warty.

[=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Patrick_Corneli=DFen?= (cornelis-p-c-software-de)]

Hi!

The libs you mentioned are optional by design. Is xmms able to start or
does it crash?
When it doesn't crash, the bug is IMHO not serious. The messages are
just an unpolite way of checking the existence for these libs in the
libpath.

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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 10:29:14 +0200
From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Patrick_Corneli=DFen?= <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: xmms try to load libraries, wich not in Depends: but in Recommends:

Hi!

The libs you mentioned are optional by design. Is xmms able to start or
does it crash?
When it doesn't crash, the bug is IMHO not serious. The messages are
just an unpolite way of checking the existence for these libs in the
libpath.

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[Michelle Konzack (linux4michelle)]

Hello Patrick,

Am 2004-09-11 10:29:14, schrieb Patrick Cornelißen:
> Hi!
>
> The libs you mentioned are optional by design. Is xmms able to start or
> does it crash?

I am using the same version of 'xmms' and the messages are only
visible if you start 'xmms' from a 'xterm' or if you look in the
xsession-errors.

'xmms' start and work well. Not perfectly like the WOODY version,
but it works.

> When it doesn't crash, the bug is IMHO not serious. The messages are
> just an unpolite way of checking the existence for these libs in the
> libpath.

Right, but it fill up the "~/xsession-errors" which is curently
on my Workststion 63 MByte large (running 16 days or something
like this).

Greetings
Michelle

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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 21:41:49 +0200
From: Michelle Konzack <email address hidden>
To: Patrick =?iso-8859-1?Q?Corneli=DFen?= <email address hidden>,
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Subject: Re: Bug#270984: xmms try to load libraries, wich not in Depends: but in Recommends:

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Hello Patrick,=20

Am 2004-09-11 10:29:14, schrieb Patrick Corneli=DFen:
> Hi!
>=20
> The libs you mentioned are optional by design. Is xmms able to start or=
=20
> does it crash?

I am using the same version of 'xmms' and the messages are only=20
visible if you start 'xmms' from a 'xterm' or if you look in the=20
xsession-errors.

'xmms' start and work well. Not perfectly like the WOODY version,=20
but it works.=20

> When it doesn't crash, the bug is IMHO not serious. The messages are=20
> just an unpolite way of checking the existence for these libs in the=20
> libpath.

Right, but it fill up the "~/xsession-errors" which is curently=20
on my Workststion 63 MByte large (running 16 days or something=20
like this).=20

Greetings
Michelle

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[Andreas Barth (aba)]

Hi,

if xmms fills up the file xsession-errors without an error happening
(and I consider 63 MByte in 16 days = 4 MByte per day as "filling up"),
than I consider this to be a state we shouldn't deliver the package to
our users, and therefor consider this bug to be serious. "Working" is
IMHO more than "does play musik".

Cheers,
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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 22:08:15 +0200
From: Andreas Barth <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: filling up xsession-errors w/o error is serious

Hi,

if xmms fills up the file xsession-errors without an error happening
(and I consider 63 MByte in 16 days = 4 MByte per day as "filling up"),
than I consider this to be a state we shouldn't deliver the package to
our users, and therefor consider this bug to be serious. "Working" is
IMHO more than "does play musik".

Cheers,
Andi
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[Vladimir Shahov (mendoza-avb)]

hi

> The libs you mentioned are optional by design. Is xmms able to start or
> does it crash?
> When it doesn't crash, the bug is IMHO not serious. The messages are
> just an unpolite way of checking the existence for these libs in the
> libpath.

Application is crash without this libraries. That's why I report this
bug as "serious".

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Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:47:07 +0300
From: Vladimir Shahov <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: re: xmms try to load libraries, wich not in Depends: but in Recommends:

hi

> The libs you mentioned are optional by design. Is xmms able to start or
> does it crash?
> When it doesn't crash, the bug is IMHO not serious. The messages are
> just an unpolite way of checking the existence for these libs in the
> libpath.

Application is crash without this libraries. That's why I report this
bug as "serious".

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[Steve Langasek (vorlon)]

severity 270984 important
tags 270984 unreproducible moreinfo
thanks

Vladimir,

I can easily reproduce these warning messages, but I cannot reproduce
the crash you say you're experiencing. I don't believe the two are
related. If xmms does crash, more info is going to be needed to track
this down.

In the meantime, I'm downgrading the bug, since there's insufficient
evidence of it being a grave bug in xmms.

The suggestion that this is RC because the warnings fill the
.xsession-errors file is really quite absurd; there are lots of apps
which have much more verbose problems on startup.

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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 19:38:55 -0700
From: Steve Langasek <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>, Vladimir Shahov <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: xmms try to load libraries, wich not in Depends: but in Recommends:

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severity 270984 important
tags 270984 unreproducible moreinfo
thanks

Vladimir,

I can easily reproduce these warning messages, but I cannot reproduce
the crash you say you're experiencing. I don't believe the two are
related. If xmms does crash, more info is going to be needed to track
this down.

In the meantime, I'm downgrading the bug, since there's insufficient
evidence of it being a grave bug in xmms.

The suggestion that this is RC because the warnings fill the
=2Exsession-errors file is really quite absurd; there are lots of apps
which have much more verbose problems on startup.

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[Vladimir Shahov (mendoza-avb)]

On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 07:38:55PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> severity 270984 important
> tags 270984 unreproducible moreinfo
> thanks
>
> Vladimir,
>
> I can easily reproduce these warning messages, but I cannot reproduce
> the crash you say you're experiencing. I don't believe the two are
> related. If xmms does crash, more info is going to be needed to track
> this down.
>
> In the meantime, I'm downgrading the bug, since there's insufficient
> evidence of it being a grave bug in xmms.
>
> The suggestion that this is RC because the warnings fill the
> .xsession-errors file is really quite absurd; there are lots of apps
> which have much more verbose problems on startup.
>
Ok, thanks for your fast response. If not reproducable, another
source of problem possible .

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Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:56:30 +0300
From: Vladimir Shahov <email address hidden>
To: Steve Langasek <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: xmms try to load libraries, wich not in Depends: but in Recommends:

On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 07:38:55PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> severity 270984 important
> tags 270984 unreproducible moreinfo
> thanks
>
> Vladimir,
>
> I can easily reproduce these warning messages, but I cannot reproduce
> the crash you say you're experiencing. I don't believe the two are
> related. If xmms does crash, more info is going to be needed to track
> this down.
>
> In the meantime, I'm downgrading the bug, since there's insufficient
> evidence of it being a grave bug in xmms.
>
> The suggestion that this is RC because the warnings fill the
> .xsession-errors file is really quite absurd; there are lots of apps
> which have much more verbose problems on startup.
>
Ok, thanks for your fast response. If not reproducable, another
source of problem possible .

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[Michelle Konzack (linux4michelle)]

Helo Andreas and Maintaines,

Am 2004-09-12 22:08:15, schrieb Andreas Barth:
> Hi,
>
> if xmms fills up the file xsession-errors without an error happening
> (and I consider 63 MByte in 16 days = 4 MByte per day as "filling up"),
> than I consider this to be a state we shouldn't deliver the package to
> our users, and therefor consider this bug to be serious. "Working" is
> IMHO more than "does play musik".

Which Window Manager is used ?

This happens with "fvwm" up to version 2.5.10-12 and is corrected
in version 2.5.10-1. The messages are from gebuging.

See Bug #271481: fvwm 2.5.10-9 is filling up .xsession-errors

> Cheers,
> Andi

Greetings
Michelle

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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:14:35 +0200
From: Michelle Konzack <email address hidden>
To: Andreas Barth <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#270984: filling up xsession-errors w/o error is serious

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Helo Andreas and Maintaines,

Am 2004-09-12 22:08:15, schrieb Andreas Barth:
> Hi,
>=20
> if xmms fills up the file xsession-errors without an error happening
> (and I consider 63 MByte in 16 days =3D 4 MByte per day as "filling up"),
> than I consider this to be a state we shouldn't deliver the package to
> our users, and therefor consider this bug to be serious. "Working" is
> IMHO more than "does play musik".

Which Window Manager is used ?

This happens with "fvwm" up to version 2.5.10-12 and is corrected=20
in version 2.5.10-1. The messages are from gebuging.=20

See Bug #271481: fvwm 2.5.10-9 is filling up .xsession-errors

> Cheers,
> Andi

Greetings
Michelle

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[Thomas Hood (jdthood-aglu)]

Does the sarge version of xmms still crash as described in #270984?
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Subject: Does this problem still occur?

Does the sarge version of xmms still crash as described in #270984?
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[Jose Miguel Parrella (bureado)]

severity 270984 normal
tags 270984 + wontfix
thank knaht

sarge and etch versions have this warning. To reproduce it, you probably
should do something like:

aptitude remove libmikmod2 ; xmms

Then you get an error about a missing libmikmod.so.2 file. This happens
too with other Recommends: libraries on xmms. Nevertheless, XMMS _never_
crashes (that's why they're in Recommends:, and also Patrick pointed out
that this libs are optional by design)

Seems like XMMS is trying to load all shared libraries even if they're
not going to be used. I think this is a design problem, and it will be a
hassle to re-implement library loading or library checking. Probably
XMMS is crashing in your case due to other problems (look for
Inconsistency detected by ld.so)

This isn't harmful. Michelle pointed out that the .xsession-errors are
probably fvwm's fault (#271481), and Patrick said XMMS is responding
unpolitely to the unexistance of a library in the libpath. We're closing.

Thank you very much for your interest in this problem,
Jose

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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 14:44:19 -0400
From: Jose Parrella <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Confirmed warning in sarge and etch. No crash.

severity 270984 normal
tags 270984 + wontfix
thank knaht

sarge and etch versions have this warning. To reproduce it, you probably
should do something like:

aptitude remove libmikmod2 ; xmms

Then you get an error about a missing libmikmod.so.2 file. This happens
too with other Recommends: libraries on xmms. Nevertheless, XMMS _never_
crashes (that's why they're in Recommends:, and also Patrick pointed out
that this libs are optional by design)

Seems like XMMS is trying to load all shared libraries even if they're
not going to be used. I think this is a design problem, and it will be a
hassle to re-implement library loading or library checking. Probably
XMMS is crashing in your case due to other problems (look for
Inconsistency detected by ld.so)

This isn't harmful. Michelle pointed out that the .xsession-errors are
probably fvwm's fault (#271481), and Patrick said XMMS is responding
unpolitely to the unexistance of a library in the libpath. We're closing.

Thank you very much for your interest in this problem,
Jose