Out of date Qt makes Indian languages totally unusable in Qt/KDE apps

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Automatically imported from Debian bug report #250452
http://bugs.debian.org/250452

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Automatically imported from Debian bug report #250452
http://bugs.debian.org/250452

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Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 23:23:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Cc: <email address hidden>
Subject: Out of date Qt makes Indian languages totally unusable in Qt/KDE apps

Package: libqt3c102
Version: 3:3.2.3-2
Severity: grave

The version of qt3 currently in sarge/sid is broken with regard to Indian
language fonts. This renders KDE entirely unusable for people who want to
read/write in Hindi, Bengali etc. I had long suspected that this had been
fixed in a later Qt version. Today I finally got some time to download
and compile Qt 3.3.2 which is the latest I could find on the Trolltech
site. I made .debs from this using the existing debian packaging (minus a
couple of patches and apps which didn't work) and installed them along
with KDE 3.2.2. After a restart of KDE, everything began to work
perfectly.

So please package Qt 3.3.2 as soon as possible. If you are unable to do
so for some reason, let me know so I can do an NMU.

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Jaldhar H. Vyas <email address hidden>
La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/

[Matt Zimmerman (mdz)]

This is a severity-inlated request for a new upstream version, and not an RC bug.

[Christopher Martin (christopher-martin)]

severity 250452 important
stop

Hello,

The lack of Indic language support in Qt 3.2 is not a bug in the Qt
packages - this feature simply wasn't added until 3.3. Thus this request
is really a wishlist item, no matter how convenient the missing
functionality is. Thus I'm downgrading this bug from RC status.

In any case, Qt 3.3 packages are now available in Experimental, and the
maintainer has stated his intention to add 3.3 to Sid shortly.

Cheers,
Christopher Martin

[Jaldhar (jaldhar)]

severity 250452 grave
thanks

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Christopher Martin wrote:

> severity 250452 important
> stop
>
> Hello,
>
> The lack of Indic language support in Qt 3.2 is not a bug in the Qt
> packages - this feature simply wasn't added until 3.3.

This is not true. It was working with Debian 3.x Qt packages prior to
3.2.

> Thus this request
> is really a wishlist item, no matter how convenient the missing
> functionality is. Thus I'm downgrading this bug from RC status.
>

It is release critical because it is a regression and one that renders KDE
completely unusable -- not just inconvenient -- for Indian language users.
Although I didn't try it, I wager other languages with complex scripts
also suffered.

> In any case, Qt 3.3 packages are now available in Experimental, and the
> maintainer has stated his intention to add 3.3 to Sid shortly.
>

Yes I tried them and I already told madkiss they fix the problem. But
please leave the bug as is until the packages actually hit sid.

--
Jaldhar H. Vyas <email address hidden>
La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/

[Christopher Martin (christopher-martin)]

On July 8, 2004 10:48 am, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> This is not true. It was working with Debian 3.x Qt packages prior to
> 3.2.

Hmmm, I checked the Qt docs, and they claim Indian language support was
added/massively improved in 3.2 (not 3.3 as I remembered), and Qt 3.3
contained general font fixes. Odd, then, that 3.2 would break the
apparently pre-existing Indian language support... Anyway, I apologize
for not checking as I should have.

> It is release critical because it is a regression and one that renders
> KDE completely unusable -- not just inconvenient -- for Indian language
> users. Although I didn't try it, I wager other languages with complex
> scripts also suffered.

Perhaps, but the definition of an "important bug" is "a bug which has a
major effect on the usability of a package, without rendering it
completely unusable to everyone." That would seem to match the severity
of this bug, since only a (relatively) small subset of users are
affected, however drastically.

> > In any case, Qt 3.3 packages are now available in Experimental, and
> > the maintainer has stated his intention to add 3.3 to Sid shortly.
>
> Yes I tried them and I already told madkiss they fix the problem.
> But please leave the bug as is until the packages actually hit sid.

As long as this bug doesn't block 3.2.3-4 from hitting Sarge, I'm content.

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Message-Id: <email address hidden>
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:23:33 -0400
From: Christopher Martin <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>,
 <email address hidden>
Cc: <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Out of date Qt makes Indian languages totally unusable in Qt/KDE apps

severity 250452 important
stop

Hello,

The lack of Indic language support in Qt 3.2 is not a bug in the Qt
packages - this feature simply wasn't added until 3.3. Thus this request
is really a wishlist item, no matter how convenient the missing
functionality is. Thus I'm downgrading this bug from RC status.

In any case, Qt 3.3 packages are now available in Experimental, and the
maintainer has stated his intention to add 3.3 to Sid shortly.

Cheers,
Christopher Martin

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Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:48:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <email address hidden>
To: Christopher Martin <email address hidden>
Cc: <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#250452: Out of date Qt makes Indian languages totally unusable
 in Qt/KDE apps

severity 250452 grave
thanks

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Christopher Martin wrote:

> severity 250452 important
> stop
>
> Hello,
>
> The lack of Indic language support in Qt 3.2 is not a bug in the Qt
> packages - this feature simply wasn't added until 3.3.

This is not true. It was working with Debian 3.x Qt packages prior to
3.2.

> Thus this request
> is really a wishlist item, no matter how convenient the missing
> functionality is. Thus I'm downgrading this bug from RC status.
>

It is release critical because it is a regression and one that renders KDE
completely unusable -- not just inconvenient -- for Indian language users.
Although I didn't try it, I wager other languages with complex scripts
also suffered.

> In any case, Qt 3.3 packages are now available in Experimental, and the
> maintainer has stated his intention to add 3.3 to Sid shortly.
>

Yes I tried them and I already told madkiss they fix the problem. But
please leave the bug as is until the packages actually hit sid.

--
Jaldhar H. Vyas <email address hidden>
La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/

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Message-Id: <email address hidden>
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:32:03 -0400
From: Christopher Martin <email address hidden>
To: "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <email address hidden>
Cc: <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#250452: Out of date Qt makes Indian languages totally unusable in Qt/KDE apps

On July 8, 2004 10:48 am, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> This is not true. It was working with Debian 3.x Qt packages prior to
> 3.2.

Hmmm, I checked the Qt docs, and they claim Indian language support was
added/massively improved in 3.2 (not 3.3 as I remembered), and Qt 3.3
contained general font fixes. Odd, then, that 3.2 would break the
apparently pre-existing Indian language support... Anyway, I apologize
for not checking as I should have.

> It is release critical because it is a regression and one that renders
> KDE completely unusable -- not just inconvenient -- for Indian language
> users. Although I didn't try it, I wager other languages with complex
> scripts also suffered.

Perhaps, but the definition of an "important bug" is "a bug which has a
major effect on the usability of a package, without rendering it
completely unusable to everyone." That would seem to match the severity
of this bug, since only a (relatively) small subset of users are
affected, however drastically.

> > In any case, Qt 3.3 packages are now available in Experimental, and
> > the maintainer has stated his intention to add 3.3 to Sid shortly.
>
> Yes I tried them and I already told madkiss they fix the problem.
> But please leave the bug as is until the packages actually hit sid.

As long as this bug doesn't block 3.2.3-4 from hitting Sarge, I'm content.

[Steve Langasek (vorlon)]

Hello,

Is there any reason to believe that this bug constitutes a regression
compared with woody? If not, it is definitely not RC.

Thanks,
--
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

[Jaldhar (jaldhar)]

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Steve Langasek wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Is there any reason to believe that this bug constitutes a regression
> compared with woody? If not, it is definitely not RC.
>
> Thanks,
>

It is a regression compared to earlier versions in testing/unstable.
Woody probably not. In any case I've already told Martin he can close it
when Qt is ready to move to sid. (I think the move is blocking for some
other reason isn't it?)

--
Jaldhar H. Vyas <email address hidden>
La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/

[Steve Langasek (vorlon)]

severity 250452 important
thanks

On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 06:01:44AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Steve Langasek wrote:

> > Is there any reason to believe that this bug constitutes a regression
> > compared with woody? If not, it is definitely not RC.

> It is a regression compared to earlier versions in testing/unstable.
> Woody probably not. In any case I've already told Martin he can close it
> when Qt is ready to move to sid.

Ok, I'll leave the question of closure to Martin's discretion; I am,
however, downgrading it since it's not a blocker for sarge.

> (I think the move is blocking for some other reason isn't it?)

Qt has the same package version in sarge as in sid. If you mean the
version that's in experimental, I don't know what would be blocking it.

--
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

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Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 02:31:23 -0700
From: Steve Langasek <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Out of date Qt makes Indian languages totally unusable in Qt/KDE apps

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Hello,

Is there any reason to believe that this bug constitutes a regression
compared with woody? If not, it is definitely not RC.

Thanks,
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postmodern programmer

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Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 06:01:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <email address hidden>
To: Steve Langasek <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#250452: Out of date Qt makes Indian languages totally unusable
 in Qt/KDE apps

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Steve Langasek wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Is there any reason to believe that this bug constitutes a regression
> compared with woody? If not, it is definitely not RC.
>
> Thanks,
>

It is a regression compared to earlier versions in testing/unstable.
Woody probably not. In any case I've already told Martin he can close it
when Qt is ready to move to sid. (I think the move is blocking for some
other reason isn't it?)

--
Jaldhar H. Vyas <email address hidden>
La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 04:04:25 -0700
From: Steve Langasek <email address hidden>
To: "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <email address hidden>
Cc: <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#250452: Out of date Qt makes Indian languages totally unusable in Qt/KDE apps

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severity 250452 important
thanks

On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 06:01:44AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Steve Langasek wrote:

> > Is there any reason to believe that this bug constitutes a regression
> > compared with woody? If not, it is definitely not RC.

> It is a regression compared to earlier versions in testing/unstable.
> Woody probably not. In any case I've already told Martin he can close it
> when Qt is ready to move to sid.

Ok, I'll leave the question of closure to Martin's discretion; I am,
however, downgrading it since it's not a blocker for sarge.

> (I think the move is blocking for some other reason isn't it?)

Qt has the same package version in sarge as in sid. If you mean the
version that's in experimental, I don't know what would be blocking it.

--=20
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

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[Martin Gerhard Loschwitz (martin-loschwitz)]

Subject says it all; Qt 3.3.2 is in incoming as of today, 07th Jul 2004.
Due to that fact, this bugreport can be closed.

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Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2004 18:18:54 +0200
From: Martin Loschwitz <email address hidden>
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Subject: Fixed with 3:3.3.2-1

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Subject says it all; Qt 3.3.2 is in incoming as of today, 07th Jul 2004.
Due to that fact, this bugreport can be closed.

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  .''`. Martin Loschwitz Debian GNU/Linux developer
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