libaiksaurus-data: missing thesaurus source and attribution
Affects | Status | Importance | Assigned to | Milestone | |
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aiksaurus (Debian) |
Fix Released
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Unknown
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aiksaurus (Ubuntu) |
Invalid
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Medium
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Fabio Massimo Di Nitto |
Bug Description
Automatically imported from Debian bug report #241279
http://
In Debian Bug tracker #241279, Andre Lehovich (andrel-u) wrote : 241279: thesaurus data | #1 |
In Debian Bug tracker #241279, Andre Lehovich (andrel-u) wrote : 241279: unable to contact aiksaurus copyright holder | #2 |
I made an attempt to contact Jared Davis, the Aiksaurus
copyright holder, but my email bounced:
----- Transcript of session follows -----
<email address hidden>... Deferred: Connection timed out with
mail.aiksaurus.com.
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
Based on some web searching he may be at UT Austin. I'll
try contacting that Jared Davis to see if he has the source.
--Andre
In Debian Bug tracker #241279, Masayuki Hatta (mhatta) wrote : Re: Bug#241279: 241279: unable to contact aiksaurus copyright holder | #3 |
Hi Andre, thank you for your investigation.
Yes, aiksaurus.com and Mr. Jared Davis are not available at this
moment, but one of the upstream author of AbiWord and current
maintainer of Aiksaurus (http://
owns the source tarball. These tools are licensed under GNU GPL (see
source files), and the source text of thesaurus turned out to be Moby
Thesaurus from Project Gutenberg, which is released in the public
domain.
This archive is quite big (100MB), but I just put my Debian homedir
http://
I'm still thinking how this situation should be resolved...I don't
really want to add this big (and certainly useless for most users)
archive to aiksaurus source tarball. I guess just adding notes on
this archive to README.Debian would satisfy GPL. How do you think?
Regards,
MH
--
Masayuki Hatta
<email address hidden> / <email address hidden> / <email address hidden>
In Debian Bug tracker #241279, Andre Lehovich (andrel-u) wrote : | #4 |
I was able to reach Jared Davis at <email address hidden>.
Turns out he is running Debian and using your packages!
> This archive is quite big (100MB), but I just put my Debian homedir
> http://
I'll have to look at the archive to see why it is so big and
if there is any reduction possible. Thanks for tracking it
down.
> I'm still thinking how this situation should be resolved...I don't
> really want to add this big (and certainly useless for most users)
> archive to aiksaurus source tarball. I guess just adding notes on
> this archive to README.Debian would satisfy GPL. How do you think?
There is the GPL issue, but also Debian Free Software
Guidelines #2. The word lists are really the heart of the
application, and if there are any spelling mistakes or
similar problems that is the level at which it will have to
be fixed. I worry that if that giant tarball doesn't
formally appear in the archive it will get lost. Also our
commercial redistributors have to be careful about GPL
compliance; pointing at Debian's servers doesn't satisfy
their obligations.
--Andre
Debian Bug Importer (debzilla) wrote : | #5 |
Automatically imported from Debian bug report #241279
http://
Debian Bug Importer (debzilla) wrote : | #6 |
Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:15:36 -0700 (MST)
From: Andre Lehovich <andrel@
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: libaiksaurus-data: missing thesaurus source and attribution
Package: libaiksaurus-data
Version: 1.0.1+cvs.
Severity: serious
Neither the package description nor the copyright file
indicate who compiled the thesaurus word lists. Even if the
data are in the public domain, the original compilers
deserve prominent acknowledgement.
Furthermore, the GPL (the copyright file accompanying
libaiksaurus-data) requires Debian to provide source in the
preferred form for modification. However the source tarball
contains binary meanings.dat and words.dat files. Is this
really the preferred form? If upstream produced these
binary files by running a program on an ASCII wordlist, then
Debian can not legally distribute this package without also
providing that ASCII file and program. (Hence the RC
severity on this bug report.)
--Andre
Debian Bug Importer (debzilla) wrote : | #7 |
Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:53:27 -0700 (MST)
From: Andre Lehovich <andrel@
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: 241279: thesaurus data
The README file in the source code confirms my suspicion
that Debian is not distributing the thesaurus source:
README> If you want to do work on the thesaurus data, i.e. add synonyms or
README> so forth, please visit
README>
README> http://
README>
README> The data tools are very large (~100MB!) so I've kept them
README> out of CVS.
Unfortunately aiksaurus.com is currently down.
--Andre
Debian Bug Importer (debzilla) wrote : | #8 |
Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 21:08:51 -0700 (MST)
From: Andre Lehovich <andrel@
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: 241279: unable to contact aiksaurus copyright holder
I made an attempt to contact Jared Davis, the Aiksaurus
copyright holder, but my email bounced:
----- Transcript of session follows -----
<email address hidden>... Deferred: Connection timed out with
mail.aiksaurus.com.
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
Based on some web searching he may be at UT Austin. I'll
try contacting that Jared Davis to see if he has the source.
--Andre
Debian Bug Importer (debzilla) wrote : | #9 |
Message-Id: <email address hidden>
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 14:01:16 +0900
From: Masayuki Hatta <email address hidden>
To: Andre Lehovich <andrel@
Subject: Re: Bug#241279: 241279: unable to contact aiksaurus copyright holder
Hi Andre, thank you for your investigation.
Yes, aiksaurus.com and Mr. Jared Davis are not available at this
moment, but one of the upstream author of AbiWord and current
maintainer of Aiksaurus (http://
owns the source tarball. These tools are licensed under GNU GPL (see
source files), and the source text of thesaurus turned out to be Moby
Thesaurus from Project Gutenberg, which is released in the public
domain.
This archive is quite big (100MB), but I just put my Debian homedir
http://
I'm still thinking how this situation should be resolved...I don't
really want to add this big (and certainly useless for most users)
archive to aiksaurus source tarball. I guess just adding notes on
this archive to README.Debian would satisfy GPL. How do you think?
Regards,
MH
--
Masayuki Hatta
<email address hidden> / <email address hidden> / <email address hidden>
Debian Bug Importer (debzilla) wrote : | #10 |
Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 21:15:44 -0700 (MST)
From: Andre Lehovich <andrel@
To: Masayuki Hatta <email address hidden>
cc: <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#241279: 241279: unable to contact aiksaurus copyright holder
I was able to reach Jared Davis at <email address hidden>.
Turns out he is running Debian and using your packages!
> This archive is quite big (100MB), but I just put my Debian homedir
> http://
I'll have to look at the archive to see why it is so big and
if there is any reduction possible. Thanks for tracking it
down.
> I'm still thinking how this situation should be resolved...I don't
> really want to add this big (and certainly useless for most users)
> archive to aiksaurus source tarball. I guess just adding notes on
> this archive to README.Debian would satisfy GPL. How do you think?
There is the GPL issue, but also Debian Free Software
Guidelines #2. The word lists are really the heart of the
application, and if there are any spelling mistakes or
similar problems that is the level at which it will have to
be fixed. I worry that if that giant tarball doesn't
formally appear in the archive it will get lost. Also our
commercial redistributors have to be careful about GPL
compliance; pointing at Debian's servers doesn't satisfy
their obligations.
--Andre
In Debian Bug tracker #241279, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto (fabbione) wrote : Possible solution to fix 241279 | #11 |
Hi,
I did some investigation on how to fix this problem.
Please grab this (50MB) tar.bz2 file:
http://
that contains the following:
- a stripped down aiksaurus-
- aiksaurus-
tools with Debian
- a proposed aiksaurus_
The stripped down tar file of aiksaurus-
everything in the original (as present on your pages on people.debian.org)
stripped of the failed examples in old_data/ (as explained in the README
file).
The tar still contains the 2 mentioned examples in the README file.
In this way all the code for the tools is shipped. Be aware that they
compile only with g++-2.95 (reason why the proposed package build-deps on
libstdc++2.10-dev), but they are not built or shipped with this proposal.
The aiksaurus-
provide a global Makefile and a little patch to the tools to use the
correct version of g++.
The proposed package requires a new orig.tar.gz to include the
0.12-devtools and it stores them in data/0.12-dev.
The copyright file should be ok since all the code is released under GPL.
At the end of this process the aiksaurus-
from 350MB to 96MB unpacked. Adding only 20 Mb of overhead on the
.orig.tar.gz that i think it is a more reasonable amount compared to the
100Mb discussed in the bug report.
Please CC me on reply.
Thanks
Fabio
Debian Bug Importer (debzilla) wrote : | #12 |
Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 11:25:52 +0200 (CEST)
From: Fabio Massimo Di Nitto <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: Possible solution to fix 241279
Hi,
I did some investigation on how to fix this problem.
Please grab this (50MB) tar.bz2 file:
http://
that contains the following:
- a stripped down aiksaurus-
- aiksaurus-
tools with Debian
- a proposed aiksaurus_
The stripped down tar file of aiksaurus-
everything in the original (as present on your pages on people.debian.org)
stripped of the failed examples in old_data/ (as explained in the README
file).
The tar still contains the 2 mentioned examples in the README file.
In this way all the code for the tools is shipped. Be aware that they
compile only with g++-2.95 (reason why the proposed package build-deps on
libstdc++2.10-dev), but they are not built or shipped with this proposal.
The aiksaurus-
provide a global Makefile and a little patch to the tools to use the
correct version of g++.
The proposed package requires a new orig.tar.gz to include the
0.12-devtools and it stores them in data/0.12-dev.
The copyright file should be ok since all the code is released under GPL.
At the end of this process the aiksaurus-
from 350MB to 96MB unpacked. Adding only 20 Mb of overhead on the
.orig.tar.gz that i think it is a more reasonable amount compared to the
100Mb discussed in the bug report.
Please CC me on reply.
Thanks
Fabio
Matt Zimmerman (mdz) wrote : | #13 |
Remove myself from all these CCs now that we have the warty-bugs mailing list
In Debian Bug tracker #241279, Jeroen van Wolffelaar (jeroenvw) wrote : Problems with aiksaurus affecting abiword and lyx | #14 |
Hi,
As you can see at http://
two release critical issues at the moment.
With the release of Sarge looming, I ask you to look into these two
bugs. Either those need to be fixed, or your package needs to stop
depending on aiksaurus. Please post information about how easy it is to
stop depending on aiksaurus to these bugs, in order to help deciding
what to do if these bugs are not going to be fixed in time.
I'd be a pity to lose abiword and lyx in Sarge due to some issues in an
Thesaurus.
--Jeroen
--
Jeroen van Wolffelaar
<email address hidden> (also for Jabber & MSN; ICQ: 33944357)
http://
Debian Bug Importer (debzilla) wrote : | #15 |
Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 18:54:38 +0200
From: Jeroen van Wolffelaar <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Cc: <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Problems with aiksaurus affecting abiword and lyx
Hi,
As you can see at http://
two release critical issues at the moment.
With the release of Sarge looming, I ask you to look into these two
bugs. Either those need to be fixed, or your package needs to stop
depending on aiksaurus. Please post information about how easy it is to
stop depending on aiksaurus to these bugs, in order to help deciding
what to do if these bugs are not going to be fixed in time.
I'd be a pity to lose abiword and lyx in Sarge due to some issues in an
Thesaurus.
--Jeroen
--
Jeroen van Wolffelaar
<email address hidden> (also for Jabber & MSN; ICQ: 33944357)
http://
Fabio Massimo Di Nitto (fabbione) wrote : | #16 |
Fixed with warty upload: aiksaurus_
In Debian Bug tracker #241279, Steve Langasek (vorlon) wrote : | #17 |
Hello,
I'm preparing to NMU this package (sorry I wasn't able to do so sooner,
Masayuki), and I'm not sure that I'm comfortable changing the upstream
version in this NMU. Fabio, were there any reasons (other than diff
size) for making a new .orig.tar.gz? Masayuki, do you object to this
change, or should I go ahead with it?
--
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer
Debian Bug Importer (debzilla) wrote : | #18 |
Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 20:29:09 -0700
From: Steve Langasek <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Cc: Fabio Massimo Di Nitto <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: libaiksaurus-data: missing thesaurus source and attribution
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I'm preparing to NMU this package (sorry I wasn't able to do so sooner,
Masayuki), and I'm not sure that I'm comfortable changing the upstream
version in this NMU. Fabio, were there any reasons (other than diff
size) for making a new .orig.tar.gz? Masayuki, do you object to this
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postmodern programmer
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In Debian Bug tracker #241279, Steve Langasek (vorlon) wrote : Fixed in NMU of aiksaurus 1.0.1+cvs.2004.03.15+dev-0.12-0.1 | #19 |
tag 241279 + fixed
tag 249909 + fixed
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Source: aiksaurus
Binary: gaiksaurus libaiksaurusgtk
Architecture: source alpha all
Version: 1.0.1+cvs.
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Masayuki Hatta (mhatta) <email address hidden>
Changed-By: Steve Langasek <email address hidden>
Description:
aiksaurus - an English-language thesaurus (utility)
gaiksaurus - graphical interface to the Aiksaurus toolkit (GTK+ frontend)
libaiksaurus-data - an English-language thesaurus (data)
libaiksaurus-dev - an English-language thesaurus (development)
libaiksaurus0c102 - an English-language thesaurus (development)
libaiksaurusgt
libaiksaurusgt
Closes: 241279 249909
Changes:
aiksaurus (1.0.1+
.
* Non-maintainer upload.
* Disable *_DISABLE_
* Added 0.12-dev source code with minimal Makefile support for the minimum
set of tools to produce data/*.dat files. (Closes: #241279)
* Re-libtoolize the package, to fix problems with wrong sharedlib
extension detection
Files:
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Debian Bug Importer (debzilla) wrote : | #20 |
Message-Id: <email address hidden>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:32:09 -0400
From: Steve Langasek <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Cc: Steve Langasek <email address hidden>, Masayuki Hatta (mhatta) <email address hidden>
Subject: Fixed in NMU of aiksaurus 1.0.1+cvs.
tag 241279 + fixed
tag 249909 + fixed
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Source: aiksaurus
Binary: gaiksaurus libaiksaurusgtk
Architecture: source alpha all
Version: 1.0.1+cvs.
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Masayuki Hatta (mhatta) <email address hidden>
Changed-By: Steve Langasek <email address hidden>
Description:
aiksaurus - an English-language thesaurus (utility)
gaiksaurus - graphical interface to the Aiksaurus toolkit (GTK+ frontend)
libaiksaurus-data - an English-language thesaurus (data)
libaiksaurus-dev - an English-language thesaurus (development)
libaiksaurus0c102 - an English-language thesaurus (development)
libaiksaurusgt
libaiksaurusgt
Closes: 241279 249909
Changes:
aiksaurus (1.0.1+
.
* Non-maintainer upload.
* Disable *_DISABLE_
* Added 0.12-dev source code with minimal Makefile support for the minimum
set of tools to produce data/*.dat files. (Closes: #241279)
* Re-libtoolize the package, to fix problems with wrong sharedlib
extension detection
Files:
331402949c2043
a1ad437e022201
7ce403dfc13e1f
96d77815b46916
7e2a1ea54bacb1
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In Debian Bug tracker #241279, Masayuki Hatta (mhatta) wrote : Bug#241279: fixed in aiksaurus 1.2.1+dev-0.12-3 | #22 |
Source: aiksaurus
Source-Version: 1.2.1+dev-0.12-3
We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
aiksaurus, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:
aiksaurus_
to pool/main/
aiksaurus_
to pool/main/
aiksaurus_
to pool/main/
gaiksaurus_
to pool/main/
libaiksaurus-
to pool/main/
libaiksaurus-
to pool/main/
libaiksaurus-
to pool/main/
libaiksaurusgtk
to pool/main/
libaiksaurusgtk
to pool/main/
A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.
Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you
have further comments please address them to <email address hidden>,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.
Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Masayuki Hatta (mhatta) <email address hidden> (supplier of updated aiksaurus package)
(This message was generated automatically at their request; if you
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Source: aiksaurus
Binary: gaiksaurus libaiksaurusgtk
Architecture: source i386 all
Version: 1.2.1+dev-0.12-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Masayuki Hatta (mhatta) <email address hidden>
Changed-By: Masayuki Hatta (mhatta) <email address hidden>
Description:
aiksaurus - an English-language thesaurus (utility)
gaiksaurus - graphical interface to the Aiksaurus toolkit (GTK+ frontend)
libaiksaurus-
libaiksaurus-
libaiksaurus-
libaiksaurusgt
libaiksaurusgt
Closes: 241279
Changes:
aiksaurus (1.2.1+dev-0.12-3) unstable; urgency=low
.
* Bumped to Standards-Verion: 3.7.2.
* Acknowledged a (really old) NMU - closes: #241279
Files:
3cc4aef5a85464
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Changed in aiksaurus: | |
status: | Fix Committed → Fix Released |
The README file in the source code confirms my suspicion
that Debian is not distributing the thesaurus source:
README> If you want to do work on the thesaurus data, i.e. add synonyms or www.aiksaurus. com/developers/ datatools/
README> so forth, please visit
README>
README> http://
README>
README> The data tools are very large (~100MB!) so I've kept them
README> out of CVS.
Unfortunately aiksaurus.com is currently down.
--Andre