Confirmation for logout-restart-shutdown is a loss of time for most users

Bug #607575 reported by YannUbuntu
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Ayatana Ubuntu
Invalid
Undecided
Unassigned
Session Menu
Confirmed
Wishlist
Unassigned
indicator-session (Ubuntu)
Confirmed
Wishlist
Unassigned

Bug Description

When the user clicks on "Logout", or "Restart" or "Shutdown", a window pop-ups and requires the user to confirm his action.

I believe this window is useless, anti-productive (loss of time) for most users. [Workaround : Alt-F2 enter "gconf-editor", Apps>indicator-session, and tick suppress-logout-restart-shutdown]

The only reason that would make me keep it is Accessibility : some people can't target very sharply with the mouse (but in this case we should improve all other applets' accessibility...). For this reason, we could add a "Don't show this window any more in the future" option in the confirmation window, so that the user has the choice to remove it or not.

If I remember well, in Karmic there was a 60s delay after which the confirmation was automatically activated. I don't think this was a good idea, for security matter, and also because Ubuntu boot is (/should be) now faster than 60s.

Hope this helps making Ubuntu better.

Omer Akram (om26er)
affects: indicator-applet → indicator-session
YannUbuntu (yannubuntu)
description: updated
summary: - Confirmation for logout-restart-shutdown is a loss of time for the user
+ Confirmation for logout-restart-shutdown is a loss of time for most
+ users
Ted Gould (ted)
Changed in ayatana-ubuntu:
status: New → Invalid
Changed in indicator-session:
status: New → Opinion
status: Opinion → Confirmed
importance: Undecided → Wishlist
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Gurmeet (gurmeet1109) wrote :

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   When the user clicks on "Logout", or "Restart" or "Shutdown", a window pop-ups and requires the user to confirm his action. I believe this window is useless, anti-productive (loss of time) for most users.
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No. it is not. I myself have accidently pressed such buttons and personally know a lot of people that do so on a irregular basis. Thanks to the option our current session does not go through a abrupt abort and work does not get lost. But this is my opinion and real world experience. May not match with everyone.

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[Workaround : Alt-F2 enter "gconf-editor", Apps>indicator-session, and tick suppress-logout-restart-shutdown]
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Am OK with workaround for advanced users / special cases from gconf. For default users, confirmation dialog is absolutely required.

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YannUbuntu (yannubuntu) wrote :

Thank you for your comments.

[Quote]work does not get lost.[/Quote]
Good remark. What about make the confirmation dialog appear ONLY if there is an open application (Firefox, Office etc.. ) ?

(concerning the "Don't show this window any more in the future" option I suggested in my first post, I agree it has the problem that it is not easily reversible.)

[Quote]I myself have accidently pressed such buttons and personally know a lot of people that do so on a irregular basis.[/Quote]
May I ask you how this happened ? (please don't take it as offense, I just want to understand and improve accessibility)
I see two possibilities for this to happen :
1) the user wants to click on the LockScreen, but clicks just under in the menu (bad mouse gesture hability)
2) the user uses Ubuntu for the first time, he thinks the "Shutdown" menu will just close an application (to solve this we could e.g rename "Shutdown" into "Shutdown Ubuntu")

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Gurmeet (gurmeet1109) wrote :

1) the user wants to click on the LockScreen, but clicks just under in the menu (bad mouse gesture hability)

Still a fact .. and has to guarded for ..
A confirmation dialog does not hurt .. atleast for me .

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Gurmeet (gurmeet1109) wrote :

Basically habit formation is what is play here if someone asks .. and I don't really look .. it's just that my hand automatically goes there and I have kind of memorized the exact amount the mouse has to travel with exact sequence of scrolls and clicks that I have to do for a intended action .. So in my brain, I just utter a word, say "Suspend" and the rest of it is automatic, or sub-conciouslly happening if you might say.

Just to add ...
It happened again .. I pressed shutdown when I wanted to press suspend. I am glad that the confirmation dialog is still there and it prevented me from losing my work and open files ...

Ted Gould (ted)
Changed in indicator-session (Ubuntu):
importance: Undecided → Wishlist
status: New → Confirmed
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