Something is not right in page 124

[Reda Lazri (0rAX0)]

In page 124 we have:

"...Do not give administration privileges to all users to make administration
easier."

I think that there's something wrong with that, it should be:

"To make administration easier, do not give administration privileges to all users."

What do you think?

[Uli Tillich (utillich)]

I am not a native speaker, but I think the way you phrased it, it
changes the meaning. Though it might be matter of debate which meaning
is closer to the "truth". Giving everyone admin rights is probably less
work until something goes wrong, then its a lot more work...

I would suggest something along the line of:

Giving all users administration rights might seem to make administration
easier, but is generally not a good idea for security reasons.

[Simon Osborne (flibblesan)]

On 24 March 2010 15:21, Uli Tillich <email address hidden> wrote:
> I am not a native speaker, but I think the way you phrased it, it
> changes the meaning. Though it might be matter of debate which meaning
> is closer to the "truth". Giving everyone admin rights is probably less
> work until something goes wrong, then its a lot more work...

Saying "To make administration easier, do not give administration
privileges to all users." is the correct way in terms of grammar and
it is easy to understand.

> I would suggest something along the line of:
>
> Giving all users administration rights might seem to make administration
> easier, but is generally not a good idea for security reasons.

A reader would then ask "what security reasons?". Do you really need
or want to explain them? The original sentence was sufficient once
grammatically corrected.

Simon

[Uli Tillich (utillich)]

The way I read the original sentence (probably my mistake) it carried a different meaning than the correction:

"...Do not give administration privileges to all users to make administration easier." -> don't do it just because you think it will make administration easier

"To make administration easier, do not give administration privileges to all users." -> not doing it will make administration easier

[Simon Osborne (flibblesan)]

On 24 March 2010 16:12, Uli Tillich <email address hidden> wrote:
> The way I read the original sentence (probably my mistake) it carried a
> different meaning than the correction:
>
> "...Do not give administration privileges to all users to make
> administration easier." -> don't do it just because you think it will
> make administration easier
>
> "To make administration easier, do not give administration privileges to
> all users."  -> not doing it will make administration easier
>

Hmm, yes I see what you mean. The first sentence can be read either
way as being don't do this to make things easier, or don't do this if
you think it'll make things easier.

Simon

[Reda Lazri (0rAX0) (0rax0)]

The phrase is really confusing, and have two meanings, I think we agree that having one administrator is better in a lot of ways, including "making administration easier".

So '"To make administration easier, do not give administration privileges to all users." -> not doing it will make administration easier ' is the correct one, and the one intended by the author in first place IMHO.

[Josh Holland (jshholland)]

% \warning{Only users that need administration access should be given sudo permission. We do not recommend granting administrative privileges to all users.}

This appears to be the line in question, but it's commented out. The change appears to have been introduced in rev 589 by Bryan, so I've subscribed him to see why he commented it.

[Bryan Behrenshausen (stillnotcool-deactivatedaccount-deactivatedaccount)]

I introduced this change because all information regarding sudo has been removed from Chapter 7 (Security). This information was redundant with that located in the chapter on the command line. If this is something new users should know, I suggest adding it to Chapter 6.