libgtk etc is needed for SCIM to work in Kubuntu

[Rajeev J Sebastian]

However, scim also requires libgtk etc etc.

Please split the package into seperate parts. Kubuntu has Skim and doesnt require scim GTK Setup UI or scim-panel-gtk.

[Sense Egbert Hofstede (sense)]

Thanks for your idea, but it isn't really a bug. Have a look here: <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureSpecifications> or look here <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+specs>

[Rajeev J Sebastian (rajeev-jsv)]

Hello Mr Sense,

What are you talking about ?

Regards
Rajeev J Sebastian

On 3/4/07, Sense <email address hidden> wrote:
> Thanks for your idea, but it isn't really a bug. Have a look here:
> <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureSpecifications> or look here
> <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+specs>
>
> ** Changed in: scim (Ubuntu)
> Assignee: (unassigned) => Sense
>
> --
> libgtk etc is needed for SCIM to work in Kubuntu
> https://launchpad.net/bugs/49974
>

[Sense Egbert Hofstede (sense)]

The documentation says that these things are feature requests, but maybe I'm wrong. Sorry.

[Rajeev J Sebastian (rajeev-jsv)]

Dear Mr Sense,

Yes, you are wrong. You don't need GTK to build SCIM without the panel.

Regards
Rajeev J Sebastian

On 3/4/07, Sense <email address hidden> wrote:
> The documentation says that these things are feature requests, but maybe
> I'm wrong. Sorry.
>
> ** Changed in: scim (Ubuntu)
> Assignee: Sense => (unassigned)
>
> --
> libgtk etc is needed for SCIM to work in Kubuntu
> https://launchpad.net/bugs/49974
>

[Onkar Shinde (onkarshinde)]

I am not too sure about this, but I think skim is the right package for KDE.

[Rajeev J Sebastian (rajeev-jsv)]

I left the kubuntu scene long ago. IIRC SCIM has a dependency on
libgtk, whereas it is not strictly necessary for a KDE environment
(which uses Skim).

On 3/7/07, Onkar Shinde <email address hidden> wrote:
> I am not too sure about this, but I think skim is the right package for
> KDE.
>
> --
> libgtk etc is needed for SCIM to work in Kubuntu
> https://launchpad.net/bugs/49974
>

[gmlion (gm-l)]

Confirming since scim is effectively needed by skim, and it depends on libgtk

[Ming Hua (minghua)]

Fixing this bug requires re-split the binary packages for scim.

Previous versions of scim tried to solve this by putting /usr/lib/libscim-gtkutils-1.0.so.8.* into scim-gtk2-immodule package, which in my opinion is not a good move, and caused more problems than it solved. The worst is, only picking out /usr/lib/libscim-gtkutisl-1.0.so.8.* doesn't remove the GTK dependency of skim, as skim still needs the /usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-laucher program (probably and others) in the scim package to work properly.

So to fix this, one must figure out which part of scim is used by skim, and put them into separate binary packages, and skim can only depends on those packages instead of scim and libscim8c2a, which both depend on GTK now.

I'm offering to mentor fixing this bug. If anyone is interested and know the KDE stuff (as I don't know about KDE at all, I can answer the scim-related questions but not the KDE-related or skim-related ones), welcome to have a look.

[Ming Hua (minghua)]

Nobody seems interested working on this.

Also, in gutsy it appears skim only depends on libscim8c2a and libskim0, and libskim0 only depends on libscim8c2a. So where is the GTK+ dependency we are talking about?

[Rajeev J Sebastian (rajeev-jsv)]

Ming Hua,

This was the case a long time ago. I have no idea what Ubuntu/Debian is upto. My packages for SCIM/Skim on Pardus shows no need for libgtk.

Regards
Rajeev Sebastian

[Ming Hua (minghua)]

Hi Rajeev Sebastian,

On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 05:15:14AM -0000, Rajeev J Sebastian wrote:
>
> This was the case a long time ago. I have no idea what Ubuntu/Debian is
> upto. My packages for SCIM/Skim on Pardus shows no need for libgtk.

Thanks for the reply. I think I have a basic idea about this GTK
dependency of scim/skim, and I plan to leave this bug open for future
discussion. If you don't want to get involved in such discussions,
please say so and I'll close this bug and open a new bug.

Thanks,
Ming
2007.10.06

[Javier Jardón (jjardon)]

Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. You reported this bug a while ago and there hasn't been any activity in it recently. We were wondering is this still an issue for you? Can you try with latest Ubuntu release? Thanks in advance.

[Jonathan Thomas (echidnaman)]

We are closing this bug report because it lacks the information we need to investigate the problem, as described in the previous comments. Please reopen it if you can give us the missing information, and don't hesitate to submit bug reports in the future. To reopen the bug report you can click on the current status, under the Status column, and change the Status back to "New". Thanks again!