Unclear question on first Kile startup after 9.04->9.10 upgrade

[Prateek Karandikar]

Binary package hint: kile

When I started Kile for the first time after the Kubuntu 9.04 -> 9.10 upgrade, I got a dialog box asking "The standard tool list need to be reloaded because of the switch from KDE3 to KDE4. This will overwrite any changes in the tools you have made. Do you want to reload the list now (recommended)?"

I don't know anything about a "standard tool list", and since I was using Kile regularly in 9.04, whatever the "standard tool list" is, it's something users need not know about when using Kile. Kile should not ask a question like this without providing more information, including information about making copies of whatever "changes in the tools" it is going to overwrite.

Besides, 9.04->9.10 wasn't a KDE 3 to KDE 4 transition at all, so... (or did 9.04 have KDE 3 Kile? Again, users need not know this)

ProblemType: Bug
Architecture: i386
Date: Wed Nov 4 18:22:24 2009
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10
ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/kile
NonfreeKernelModules: vboxnetadp vboxnetflt vboxdrv usbhid nls_iso8859_1 nls_cp437 vfat fat usb_storage ip6table_filter ip6_tables ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_nat nf_nat nf_conntrack_ipv4 nf_defrag_ipv4 xt_conntrack nf_conntrack binfmt_misc bridge stp bnep ppdev snd_hda_codec_realtek snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec snd_hwdep snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm snd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi snd_rawmidi snd_seq_midi_event arc4 ecb snd_seq iptable_filter snd_timer iwl3945 snd_seq_device ip_tables iwlcore btusb joydev x_tables uvcvideo snd mac80211 soundcore sdhci_pci videodev snd_page_alloc sdhci lp ricoh_mmc v4l1_compat cfg80211 psmouse serio_raw acer_wmi parport led_class dm_raid45 xor fbcon tileblit font bitblit softcursor ohci1394 tg3 ieee1394 i915 drm i2c_algo_bit video output intel_agp agpgart
Package: kile 1:2.1.0~svn1014763beta2-1ubuntu1
ProcEnviron:
 LANG=en_IN
 SHELL=/bin/bash
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-14.48-generic
SourcePackage: kile
Uname: Linux 2.6.31-14-generic i686

[Andreas Wenning (andreas-wenning)]

This is the lesser of two evils. The change from KDE3 to KDE4 changes a lot of names of external tools, eg. kpdf -> okular. Re-creating the default makes sense in that case.

This should of course have been present already at the 8.10 -> 9.04 upgrade, but wasn't part of kile at that point. Keeping this question does however still makes sense for the 8.04 -> 9.10 upgrade, which is supported. Unfortunately we are not able to disable for the 9.04 -> 9.10 upgrade.

Better have this question show up unnecessarily at some users, while actually fix kile to work for users upgrading from 8.04.

I'm not quite sure, how the wording can be improved; but in any case, changing to the wording will not be put into karmic but only show up in 10.04; at that point 8.04 (the last KDE3 release) will be EOL and direct upgrades not supported, so the text will be irrelevant then.

I'm marking this bug as "won't fix" as there is no thing which we can really fix here. I hope the above explained the motivation for this. Feel free to report any other bugs you find.

[thinkpad (fellowsgarden)]

still present in Precise (today, installed Okular (which is open) and Kile (which I opened now as well) and that triggered the message described above).