Please update hugin to 0.8.0 version

[Sennaista]

Binary package hint: hugin

Changes is here: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=981086

[Sennaista (sennaista)]

I'm not very familiar with the way these things work but why only karmic? Is there anything stopping us from getting it in jaunty too?

[Savvas Radevic (medigeek)]

Sennaista, read about stable release updates: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure

They are provided only under the condition that the current package does not work as expected and is *really* buggy. "Nominate for release" on the top of the bug page is used for that. However if the package works as expected, there's no point of updating it, since it already has a stable version that simply works.

And packaging requires people to work on it, it's not an automated process. :)

Alternative solutions:
- Usually backports are done mostly unofficially. For example, if you want to make a backport for it, you can make your own PPA repository in Launchpad and also share it with others to provide the package you want for older Ubuntu releases.
- You can ask the getdeb.net folks to package it for you and find the package on their website.

[Sennaista (sennaista)]

Savvas, thanks for the explanation. I was kind of thinking that once a package is prepared it can be made available for all previous Ubuntu releases. Hence my question about karmic and jaunty; if it's packaged for karmic then why not include it in jaunty repositories too.

[Savvas Radevic (medigeek)]

> Hence my question about karmic and jaunty; if it's packaged
> for karmic then why not include it in jaunty repositories too.

When a release is marked as stable, it means that it will contain
stable working no-important-error packages. The packages should run
and their contents should be used without any problems.

Karmic is still considered alpha and packages still keep coming in,
whereas jaunty is considered stable and packages are updated only if
they 're broken. Packages in karmic are going under testing, from
alpha until beta, from there in release candidate and then a stable
fully working release.

In other words, shooting out each release can sometimes be dangerous.
Maybe something won't work as expected, maybe it depends on other
packages, maybe the package in karmic isn't perfect. If you include
that package and then after a month or so, a user comes and says "Hi,
my package isn't working", you need to check two packages, make
another update, and so on and so forth.

I believe that it is for the best that new packages go in new
releases. Otherwise, I would suggest to consider a so-called "rolling
release" operating system, such as Debian testing or Archlinux or
Foresight Linux:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_release

Without being an expert, here are some interesting links for you to read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Release_engineering

P.S. I'm neither a package maintainer (aka MOTU) nor Ubuntu/Canonical
representative. :)

[Sennaista (sennaista)]

Savvas, thanks again for the explanation. I might look into packaging and see if I can get my hands wet with that. I'm a complete Linux novice though. :)

[Fabrice Coutadeur (fabricesp)]

Debian is working on it. Waiting to see what is the planned delivery date.

[Andreas Metzler (k-launchpad-downhill-at-eu-org)]

fixed in Debian/sid.

[Artur Rona (ari-tczew)]

 hugin (0.8.0.dfsg-2) unstable; urgency=low

   * Upload to unstable.
   * Use dversionmangle in watchfile.

 -- Andreas Metzler <email address hidden> Wed, 09 Sep 2009 20:11:43 +0200
hugin (0.8.0.dfsg-1) experimental; urgency=low

   [ Andreas Metzler ]
   * New upstream version. Closes: #537542
     + Uses correct default value for enfuse/enblend if the option is not
       already saved. Closes: #504296
   * [lintian] Stop invoking dh_desktop.
   * Standards-Version 3.8.2, no changes required.
   * Add minimal manpage for matchpoint.
   * Add get-orig-source target to debian/rules
   * Add minimal README.source.

   [ Cyril Brulebois ]
   * debian/watch: Follow upstream's move from bz2 to gz for the tarballs,
     thanks to Fabrice Coutadeur (Closes: #539243). Finally support both
     extensions, just to make sure.

 -- Andreas Metzler <email address hidden> Sun, 06 Sep 2009 11:33:55 +0200

[Darxus (darxus)]

Just a status note:

Since this bug wasn't even opened until two days after Karmic's Debian import freeze, it didn't make Karmic. It'll be automatically merged in the next release, Lucid, with a Debian import freeze on December 31st and a Final Release on April 29th.

[Artur Rona (ari-tczew)]

Please add repositories about my-ppa (check my profile) to your system (/etc/apt/sources.list). Then apt-get update and upgrade hugin. It should automatically download and install libpano13-1, both packages from my-ppa. Please answer here about test what you'll do.

[Darxus (darxus)]

Artur: Why? Do you have a plan to get it into Karmic? Or is it a newer version than Debian's package?

[Artur Rona (ari-tczew)]

Yes, I want to get sync hugin 0.8.0, because now karmic got version out-of-dated. Could you test it, please?

[Darxus (darxus)]

I am not convinced this qualifies for a feature freeze exception, with testing by only you and I. As much as it sucks for hugin to be so far behind on karmic.

You still have a number of other things you need to post to this bug:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#FeatureFreeze%20for%20new%20upstream%20versions

[Martin Meyer (elreydetodo)]

FYI - new version 2009.2.0 (wtf?!) was released on 9/29.

release notes: http://hugin.sourceforge.net/releases/2009.2.0/en.shtml

[Artur Rona (ari-tczew)]

Now we have FFe and bug-fixes versions is prefer to upload instead big new upstream versions.

[Darxus (darxus)]

Artur: What?

[Darxus (darxus)]

I just got confirmation from the packager that http://packages.debian.org/experimental/hugin (2009.2.0+dfsg~rc1-1) *is* 2009.2.0 final (the release candidate passed). So as soon as it gets sufficiently tested, it syncs to sid, and then automatically syncs to lucid.

[Artur Rona (ari-tczew)]

OK +1 2009 2.0 for Ubuntu 10.04, but here we are talking about hugin for karmic. All says that karmic will got 0.8.0 version.

[Darxus (darxus)]

I tested the packages from Artur Rona's ppa under an up to date karmic install. They work beautifully. The packages were:

hugin-tools 0.8.0.dfsg-2~ppa0 [3,051kB]
hugin-data 0.8.0.dfsg-2~ppa0 [8,248kB]
libpano13-1 2.9.14-2~ppa0 [207kB]
hugin 0.8.0.dfsg-2~ppa0 [1,201kB]

And for anybody else who wants to test them, all you have to do is add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ari-tczew/ppa/ubuntu karmic main

And run "aptitude update && aptitude install hugin".

Be sure to remove that new line from your sources.list afterward so you don't accidentally install other development packages you don't want, and re-run aptitude update.

[Artur Rona (ari-tczew)]

Darxus, please copy your comment #19 to this report bug #439396