Remove NEStra, FCEU, Gfceu, fceu-server from jaunty

Bug #316782 reported by amano
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Bug Description

Please remove the old unmaintained NES emulator cruft and package a current one.

A [needs-packaging] request for Nestopia (the most compatible one with advanced features like NTSC filters) can be found here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/178034

Offering Nestopia in the repos should be sufficient for all your NES emulation needs. The cruft should be removed and thus not displayed in Add/Remove...

Further information:
1) My version: Ubuntu 8.10
2) all other NES cruft (nestra, fceu-server, fceu, gfceu)
3) A current NES emulator (with GUI) should be offered in Add/Remove...
4) Ancient versions of deprecated NES emulators are offered to be installed now.

amano (jyaku)
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amano (jyaku) wrote : Re: Remove NES emulator cruft

I added the Ubuntu Universe Sponsors to this bug since this bug should be related to the bug about packaging Nestopia (the most advanced open source emulator).

I googled for when the other projects were abandoned:

For NEStra, I couldn't find a homepage anymore. It doesn't even have sound emulation and thus shouldn't be shipped.

FCE Ultra as a project is abandoned as well. There is a new successor project is called FCEUX which started in Summer 2008. This new package is just one package (so the old division in fceu(x) and gfceu(x) is obsolete).

In either way. FCE Ultra and its packages is obsolete and should be removed.

NEStopia is currently the most advanced emulator and should be packaged instead.

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Iain Lane (laney) wrote :

Hi,

I have looked at the situation and would rather you tried to package nestopia in Debian (the games team is again a good place to do this). Once this is in, you can look into having nestra removed there. We currently take nestra unmodified from Debian, so following them is the best way to go.

As for fceu*, if fceux gets packaged in Ubuntu or Debian, we can then look into removing these. But for now, I'm going to have to say no also.

Thanks for your attention to the state of our emulators :).

Iain

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Lukas Sabota (punkrockguy318) wrote :

FCEUX should definiately be added to universe.

However, fceu and gfceu should stay in universe until netplay is added to fceux. netplay is still broken in fceux, and i believe fceu is the only emulator for linux that currently supports it. There is no need to remove (g)fceu as it works fine.

Granted, FCEUX is better in every other way, but it does not support netplay

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amano (jyaku) wrote :

A status update:

Nestopia seems even to be abandoned by Martin Freij. Its last revision was released in 2007.

Currently our best bet for a working and maintained NES emulator is to wait for new revisions of FCEUX ("Family Computer Emulator Ultra Extended") which undergoes rapid development at the moment. FCEUX gets packaged regularily in Debian and thus is getting synced to Ubuntu.

The current release 2.1.3 even features a GTK GUI and working netplay but it isn't synced to Ubuntu yet (it is still 2.1.3). Even NTSC filters are on their TODO list as developer "adelikat" seems to tackle this task: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2808773&group_id=13536&atid=113536

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amano (jyaku) wrote :

FCEUX 2.1.4 with the new GTK+ UI hit the repos for Maverick. It should even offer NTSC filters but I am not too sure that those are hooked up in the GTK+ UI already (maybe Lukas Sabota who wrote the GTK+ UI can give us some insight here). See here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/fceux/2.1.4a+repack-0ubuntu1

From what I can tell this update already removes the gfceu package from the archive and adds an update path from the normal fceu builds to fceux for maverick. And since netplay seems to work with 2.1.4 there doesn't seem to be a reason to keep nestra in the archive anymore because the new fceux seems to offer all of its features (and Nestra is just built for i386, not amd64)

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