Grub2 version within Jaunty needs to be updated.

[Jean.c.h]

The current version of Grub2 within Jaunty's repos is an older one that needs to be updated.

Jaunty current is 1.96-20080724
Current i believe is 1.96-20081201

Also a C/P from an Ubuntu Brainstorm idea ive made.

Would be nice if we had an Alternate ISO from either a upcoming Daily Build or the next Alpha(3) with Grub2 as the default bootloader.

Theres no relatively new info or How-to's on the Bootloader. The only info that seems to be around is related to older versions of Grub2 and for older versions of the Distro. Therefore it makes it very risky for testers to test it out as we have no idea whats been fixed and what hasn't, whats still necessary and what isn't.

I know including Grub2 as default was discussed at UDS. I think the easiest way for us to test it and see whats its behaviour is due to lack of reasonably new info, is to do it from a fresh install where it is default.

Im sure many or most people currently testing Jaunty and those that jump on around Alpha 3/4 would download this ISO to give it a try and i think that would be the best way to get it tested on a broader range of systems than it currently is being tested on.

[plun (plun)]

"Grave bug" for Jauntys version today.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=508567

Other public bugs

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=grub2

I blown away a NTFS partition with Jaunty and Grub2.... ;)

[Chris Halse Rogers (raof)]

The grub2 version specified doesn't exist in unstable or testing; it's in experimental. I've tried the experimental version, and it has the small problem of not insmod-ing linux, which makes booting a little difficult - this appears to be http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=497791 . I'll have a whirl at tracing this down.

[plun (plun)]

Well... blkid or vol_id... does it matter ?

https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/197311

I also noticed that there are no packages built within Debian experimental just the source.

[plun (plun)]

OK.. Installed Grub2 from Debian

grub-pc_1.96+20081201-1_i386.deb

grub-common_1.96+20081201-1_i386.deb

grub2_1.96+20081201-1_i386.deb

- Lost my NTFS partition again......

Found this solution

http://blogs.koolwal.net/2008/12/28/windows-xpvista-dual-boot-does-not-boot-from-grub2-or-grub-pc/

11_Windows must also be excecuteable for root, then it works.... ;)

[plun (plun)]

And the guide is a little wrong with "--" usage

#! /bin/sh -e

echo "Adding Windows" >&2
cat << EOF
menuentry "Windows XP" {
set root=(hd0,1)
chainloader +1
}
EOF

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The kernel-helper script must also be fixed.... add/remove kernels

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/253581

I just extracted grubs script and put within /usr/sbin

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Everything works..... ;)

[plun (plun)]

For the records

Os-prober works so the Windows script is not needed.

os-prober must be added as a dependency and included withina grub2 install.

[Jean.c.h (slug71)]

Agreed that os-prober should be a dependency.

Also the chainload into grub2 from grub legacy did not work for me. Tried to scroll down to the Kernel below the chainload option and that also was broken. Both times received 'Error 11: Unrecognizable device string'.

After doing a reinstall of Ubuntu and then a reinstall of Grub2 i entered 'sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy' before doing a restart and to skip the chainload and that seemed to do the trick.

So it seems safer to skip the "safe way".
It also seems an Alternate ISO with Grub2 and os-prober by default should work and be available to test.

Windows partition was found after i rebooted by installing os-prober and updating grub.

[Jean.c.h (slug71)]

Grub2 working well so far.

Looking forward to the daily build with Ext4 tomorrow and do another install of Grub2.

[Jean.c.h (slug71)]

So installed Grub2 to see if it would play nice with the shiny new Ext4 and it played very nice. Used the version within Jaunty this time instead of the Debian experimental version and noticed that os-prober was also a dependency. NTFS partition found right off the bat and everything just works.

[Götz Christ (g-christ)]

Is it possible to merge grub2 (1.96+20081201-1) from Debian Experimental? http://packages.debian.org/experimental/grub2

It is five month newer than the Jaunty version.

[Jean.c.h (slug71)]

Can Grub2 boot XFS filesystems now?
I know a little while ago people were having issues installing Grub2 on XFS systems.
I'm guessing this will also need to be addressed if there are still issues with this and another push was made to make Grub2 default for 9.10...

[Götz Christ (g-christ)]

It supports much more FS and architectures that Grub 1.

The current status of Grub 2 is this:

http://grub.enbug.org/CurrentStatus

[Jean.c.h (slug71)]

In that case i hope Grub2 will be default in 9.10.

[Jean.c.h (slug71)]

Hows Grub2 looking as being the default bootloader in 9.10 Karmic?

[Colin Watson (cjwatson)]

Sorry, we're not going to upgrade Jaunty at this point, but Karmic has an up-to-date version.

As of tomorrow's daily builds (assuming they build successfully), GRUB 2 will be the default boot loader in Karmic.

[Andrew Starr-Bochicchio (andrewsomething)]

@ Colin:

I understand not upgrading in Jaunty at this point, but if someone (say me) were to prepare a SRU backporting a patch from Debian Stable (same upstream version as in Jaunty) would it be considered? As grub2 will be default in Karmic, I imagine that more people are considering testing in Jaunty. The following revision is the one I'd be interested in backporting:

 grub2 (1.96+20080724-14) unstable; urgency=high

   * 00_use_setroot_inside_menuentrys.diff: New patch to use `set root' inside
   the menuentrys instead of outside. (Closes: #508567)

 -- Felix Zielcke <email address hidden> Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:15:07 +0100

This bug causes me to have to manually fix grub.cfg each time grub-update is run. Resolving issues like this in Jaunty might make people fell more comfortable with the upgrade to grub2 in Karmic.

[dino99 (9d9)]

what's about 1.97 now be merged in Jaunty ?

[Hew (hew)]

Colin already said "we're not going to upgrade Jaunty at this point". Grub 1.97 is in Karmic. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates .

[Colin Watson (cjwatson)]

Andrew: if you want to prepare something backporting individual patches that fit the general SRU guidelines, feel free. As said, though, we won't consider a full upstream update in Jaunty - it's just too intrusive.

[Andrew Starr-Bochicchio (andrewsomething)]

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Colin Watson<email address hidden> wrote:
> Andrew: if you want to prepare something backporting individual patches
> that fit the general SRU guidelines, feel free. As said, though, we
> won't consider a full upstream update in Jaunty - it's just too
> intrusive.

As we're getting close to Karmic's release, I feel much less inclined
than I did two and a half months ago to do a SRU for Jaunty. Between
real-life and working on Karmic, I doubt I'll have time to do the
proper testing...