installing from aptitude provide many packages not picked up by system-cleaner

[LumpyCustard]

Binary package hint: ecryptfs-utils

Using sudo aptitude install ecryptfs-utils (from the testing page) gives me the following:

The following NEW packages will be installed:
  ecryptfs-utils libecryptfs0{a} libpkcs11-helper1{a} libtspi1{a}
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  discover1-data{u} iamerican{u} ibritish{u} ispell{u} jsvc{u}
  landscape-common{u} libalut0{u} libavutil1d{u}
  libcommons-beanutils-java{u} libcommons-collections3-java{u}
  libcommons-daemon-java{u} libcommons-dbcp-java{u}
  libcommons-digester-java{u} libcommons-el-java{u}
  libcommons-fileupload-java{u} libcommons-io-java{u}
  libcommons-launcher-java{u} libcommons-modeler-java{u}
  libcommons-pool-java{u} libcommons-validator-java{u} libdc1394-13{u}
  libecj-java{u} libfaac0{u} libfreebob0{u} libgtkhtml3.16-cil{u}
  libjack0{u} liblog4j1.2-java{u} liblzo2-2{u} libmx4j-java{u}
  libopenal1{u} libpostproc1d{u} libstruts1.2-java{u} libtomcat5.5-java{u}
  libwxbase2.6-0{u} libwxgtk2.6-0{u} libxosd2{u} libxvidcore4{u}
  nvidia-kernel-common{u} python-openssl{u} python-pam{u}
  python-pyopenssl{u} python-serial{u} python-twisted-bin{u}
  python-twisted-core{u} python-twisted-web{u} python-zopeinterface{u}
  rhino{u} update-motd{u} vlc-plugin-pulse{u}
0 packages upgraded, 4 newly installed, 49 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 371kB of archives. After unpacking 39.7MB will be freed.
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These packages, however do not show on the cruft cleaner...

should they be there, or not?

[Tomasz 'Zen' Napierala (tzn)]

Thank you for taking your time and reporting this problem.
Would you please let me know the following:
- what Ubuntu release are you running (paste output of "cat /etc/issue")
- contents of your /etc/ap/sources.list

Thanks!

[LumpyCustard (orangelumpycustard)]

damien@damien-desktop:~$ cat /etc/issue
Ubuntu 8.10 \n \l

damien@damien-desktop:~$ cat /proc/version
Linux version 2.6.27-7-generic (buildd@rothera) (gcc version 4.3.2 (Ubuntu 4.3.2-1ubuntu10) ) #1 SMP Fri Oct 24 06:42:44 UTC 2008

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Assuming you meant /etc/apt/sources.list

# See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
# newer versions of the distribution.

deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted
deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid restricted main multiverse universe #Added by software-properties

## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
## distribution.

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
## team.
deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid universe

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
## security team.
deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
## repository.
## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
# deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
# deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse

deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security main restricted
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security restricted main multiverse universe #Added by software-properties
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security universe
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security multiverse
deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates restricted main multiverse universe
deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates restricted main multiverse universe #Added by software-properties
deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports restricted main multiverse universe
deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports restricted main multiverse universe #Added by software-properties
deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free

[Dustin Kirkland  (kirkland)]

ecryptfs-utils is not trying to remove those packages.

Aptitude previously marked these packages for removal. When you invoked the installation of ecryptfs-utils, it noticed a bunch of other stuff it had in queue to do.

See:
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man8/aptitude.html

        keep-all
               Cancels all scheduled actions on all packages; any packages
               whose sticky state indicates an installation, removal, or up‐
               grade will have this sticky state cleared.

:-Dustin

[LumpyCustard (orangelumpycustard)]

Thanks for your reply (and time),

In that case, my last question is:

Why don't these packages show up in the new Cruft Remover?

[Dustin Kirkland  (kirkland)]

I'm sorry, I don't know what the new Cruft Remover is.

Perhaps you can reassign this bug to that package.

:-Dustin