LyX should recommend texlive-latex-extra

[Harris]

The integrals in the default math panel of Lyx use the esint package from texlive-latex-extra. It's not currently included in the dependencies.

[Mackenzie Morgan (maco.m)]

What version of Ubuntu and what version of LyX are you using?

[Alessio Treglia (quadrispro)]

Package's Suggests field contains texlive-latex-extra (both in hardy and intrepid).

[Harris (henniss)]

This is using 8.04.

I'm fairly new to Linux, so I apologize if what constitutes a dependency and what a suggestion has already been settled in general. However, lyx simply fails with an error about missing "esint" when trying to use these integrals - it's not clear that the texlive-latex-extra is needed, and integrals seem like they would be very commonly used, judging from Lyx's user base. Myself, I'd rather see it be made a dependency; however, see my comment at the start. If it's clearly only a suggestion as far as the community is concerned, then lets close this.

[Nick Ellery (nick.ellery)]

I think moving texlive-latex-extra up to Recommends along with the rest of the texlive-latex-* packages would be best. Attaching a debdiff.

[Nick Ellery (nick.ellery)]

lyx (1.5.5-1ubuntu1) intrepid; urgency=low

  * Moved texlive-latex-extra from suggests to recommends in lyx package (LP:
    #271994).

 -- Nick Ellery <email address hidden> Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:10:07 -0700

[Dara Adib (daradib)]

According to the Debian Policy Manual:

This [Recommends] declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency.
The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together with this one in all but unusual installations.

Source: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-binarydeps

Packages should avoid being listed as dependencies unless they are essential for installing/running the application.

Therefore, as Nick Ellery said, texlive-latex-extra should be in recommends. As of Ubuntu Intrepid (to become 8.10), the recommends field of a package is automatically installed like a dependency, but APT will not complain about unsatisfied recommends on your system.

However, as this package is maintained by Debian (and to allow future syncs), the changes should be submitted upstream to Debian. This bug report needs forwarding upstream. Once Debian adds texlive-latex-extra to recommends, the packaged can be synced.

[Nick Ellery (nick.ellery)]

Good point, submitted to Debian.

[Dara Adib (daradib)]

The responders to the filed bug in Debian (see linked bug tracker) have made several points that anyone interested in this bug should look over.

[Nick Ellery (nick.ellery)]

Dara, it would be incorrect to reduce this bug from triaged to new because of debian maintainer thoughts. It should be left as is until the bug is officially closed (or marked as a dup) in Debian, and following that, it can be closed here. For now I'll put it back to confirmed until further activity in the Debian bug.

On a side note, the Debian guys made good points about why not to promote -extra to recommends. Probably best not to change anything here.

[James Westby (james-w)]

Hi,

Reading the comments on this and the Debian bug I'm reluctant to upload this
fix. Suggests does feel right, but I realise that the message shown to the user
is not very helpful.

I'm going to unsubscribe the sponsors from this bug and wait for Debian.

If you disagree please re-subscribe the sponsors and someone else will take
a look.

Thanks,

James

[Matt Boehm (bigolewannabe)]

Without this additional dependency the user can't even use lyx to create output files of the introduction. Attempting to do so will result in an error about an unfound subfigure.sty.
Installing texlive-latex-extra resolved that error and dispayed the ps or pdf of the introduction.

[Dara Adib (daradib)]

Debian has added texlive-latex-extra to recommends in LyX 1.6.1-1.

[Dara Adib (daradib)]

I will open a sync request when the package is installed to the Debian archive.

lyx 1.6.1-1 accepted in Debian: http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lyx/news/20081214T184710Z.html

[Dara Adib (daradib)]

Sync request (for Jaunty) filed at Bug 308047.

[Dara Adib (daradib)]

Fixed in Ubuntu Jaunty with autosync of LyX 1.6.1-1. For Ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 see the LyX 1.6.1-1 backport request at Bug 297941.

[Artur Rona (ari-tczew)]

 lyx (1.6.1-1) unstable; urgency=low

   [ Per Olofsson ]
   * Don't recommend postscript-viewer. Those who need one know how to get
     it, and a PDF reader is enough for most people.

   [ Sven Hoexter ]
   * New upstream release
     + Add missing includes for cstdio as it won't be included indirectly
       in gcc 4.4. Thanks to Martin Michlmayr. Closes: #505958
   * Add ${misc:Depends} to the Depends field for the lyx binary package.
     This seems to be a required thing nowdays (according to lintian).
   * Move texlive-latex-extra from Suggests to Recommends. Closes: #499629

 -- Per Olofsson <email address hidden> Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:31:32 +0100

[Dara Adib (daradib)]

Attempting Launchpad's automatic bug status updating from Debian bug tracker.

[Dara Adib (daradib)]

Launchpad refuses to import the Debian bug because of Launchpad bug 380362. I'm reverting to manual updating.