~otto-pilot, an "active member", is 410 Gone?

[Kristian Glass]

(Please forgive the title - I'm not sure I can identify a specific bug, rather, some things feel non-obvious, but I can't pick out a specific issue)

According to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-pqm-team/+members#active, one "Active member" is "Ubuntu One Auto Pilot"

This links to https://launchpad.net/~otto-pilot, which gives me a 410 Gone

Things that slightly surprise me:

* A user's page can 410
    * I'd assume that meant "we banned and deleted them and they won't be coming back" but I wouldn't expect that for this user, given it looks like an Ubuntu/Canonical bot
* This user appears in "active members"
    * I'm not entirely clear what state they're in, but it doesn't feel like it's "active"

Am I missing something? Thanks

[Colin Watson (cjwatson)]

It's suspended because it was privileged but owned by a former employee; IIRC we ended up standing up ~otto-copilot instead.

In general suspended accounts do need to be at least a little bit visible: for example, bug comments posted by now-suspended accounts would look very odd otherwise. I'm not sure whether we ought to filter them out of this kind of list.

[Kristian Glass (doismellburning)]

Ah, thank you - I'd totally failed to notice the Pilot/Co-Pilot distinction until you pointed it out!

With that context in mind, I guess my expectations would be:

* Suspended users aren't really "active members" and probably shouldn't appear in that section
    * I notice now that the icon is slightly different, but that's quite subtle and I've managed to miss it until now
* Visiting a suspended user's page should probably indicate that they've been suspended

How does that sound?

[Colin Watson (cjwatson)]

I'd be OK with filtering them out of "active members", but I think I'd prefer to keep the 410 Gone for suspended users (the overwhelming majority of which are spammers, and we don't want them in search engine indexes etc.).

[Kristian Glass (doismellburning)]

Agree with keeping the 410 Gone status, exactly as you say - I'd just like to see some actual context/explanation on the rendered page, e.g. "User Suspended" rather than the generic "Page gone"