After installing packages from 'universe' there is no way to start them

[Aigars Mahinovs]

If a users install packages from 'universe' or 'multiverse' it is still expected
that he'll be able to find links to this software in the main graphical menu.
This can be solved by reenabling the 'Debian' menu item in 'Applications' when
synaptic or update-manager detect that a third parti source is added to
sources.list (that is any source except Ubuntu main, security and updates, but
including 'universe' and 'multiverse' sections of these).
This will most propably require installation of gnome-panel package without the
patch to remove the Debian menu. One can make gnome-panel a virtual package that
depends on "gnome-panel-ubuntu (=2.8.3-2ubuntu3) | gnome-panel-debian
(=2.8.3-2)". And then on the next update or package installation after the
universe/multiverse is added to the sources.list, gnome-panel-debian will have
to be installed additionally.

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

how is that a branding issue?

The right solution is to provide a desktop file with all the packages that needs
a menu entry: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniversePackageWithoutDesktopFile.

With hoary and GNOME 2.10 you just have to install menu and menu-xdg packages to
get the Debian menu too, I'm closing this bug.

[Aigars Mahinovs (aigarius)]

this is a branding issue, because it results from branding of gnome-panel
(removal of Debian submenu)

this would not be a bug if all packages providing Debian menu files would be
automagically (or manually) included into Ubuntus menu, but it is not the reality.

installing menu and menu-xdg packages did not solve this (hoary clean install)

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

(In reply to comment #2)
> this is a branding issue, because it results from branding of gnome-panel
> (removal of Debian submenu)

the debian menu is not some branding.

> this would not be a bug if all packages providing Debian menu files would be
> automagically (or manually) included into Ubuntus menu, but it is not the reality.

have you read the previous comment and the wiki page?

> installing menu and menu-xdg packages did not solve this (hoary clean install)

hoary has GNOME 2.10 and your comment speak about 2.8, are you sure you use
hoary? What happen if you install menu and menu-xdg and restart gnome-panel?