lubuntu-rc.xml config breaks focusNew config

[clepsdyrae]

At the end of ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml is this small section:

  <!--
        Lubuntu specific :
        Focus all applications launched
        Usefull when launching applications, like terminal from pcmanfm
  -->
<application class="*">
  <focus>yes</focus>
</application>

...the problem is that this overrides the value of focusNew, set far at the beginning of the file, making it appear as if focusNew does nothing. The same thing happens if you open the GUI openbox configuration manager and uncheck Windows -> "Focus new windows when they appear" -- the setting is ignored.

I'm not sure why it's useful to use that override, but it seems like a better solution should be found.

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.10
Package: openbox 3.6.1-1ubuntu2
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.8.0-46.49-generic 4.8.17
Uname: Linux 4.8.0-46-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.20.3-0ubuntu8.2
Architecture: amd64
CurrentDesktop: LXDE
Date: Fri Apr 14 13:15:25 2017
InstallationDate: Installed on 2017-01-12 (92 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Lubuntu 16.10 "Yakkety Yak" - Release amd64 (20161012.1)
SourcePackage: openbox
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

[Lyn Perrine (walterorlin)]

This is a default setting for lubuntu which is the correct thing for lubuntu.

[clepsdyrae (myopenid)]

Thanks -- regardless of the usefulness of the setting, the bigger issue is that if you go to Preferences -> Openbox Configuration Manager -> Windows and uncheck "Focus new windows when they appear" it has no effect, because of this <application> section.

I just tested the behavior when that section is removed, and as the ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml file implies, hitting F4 in pcmanfm will open a terminal without changing focus to it, despite focusNew being set to "Yes", so I understand the motivation there. But maybe this is a bug in openbox or pcmanfm that could be addressed?

Or, if that is the only known reason for using the <application> section, perhaps it could be narrowed to lxterminal. It just feels a little unfinished, and confuses users like myself. :-)

[dino99 (9d9)]

This is an unsupported release now. Please think to install the next LTS 'Bionic 18.04'

http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-next/daily-live/current/
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/02/ubuntu-18-04-minimal-install-option

[Simon Quigley (tsimonq2)]

No, marking as Invalid because the release is EOL is not correct. Please don't do this, dino99.

Reporter, is this still present on 17.10?

[clepsdyrae (myopenid)]

Sorry, I've been lost in GRUB hell for months... haven't updated... will report on current status ASAP. Thanks!

[clepsdyrae (myopenid)]

Just updated -- yes, the bug is still present in 17.10.

[Simon Quigley (tsimonq2)]

This likely won't be completed before 18.04 is released (unless you can contribute a patch before ~ Monday, I won't have the time) but I'll certainly get it fixed for the 18.10 release.

[clepsdyrae (myopenid)]

I would if I had the expertise. :-) Thanks for the attention to it!

[ԜаӀtеr Ⅼарсһуnѕkі (wxl)]

We're no longer using LXDE but LXQt (so pcmanfm-qt not pcmanfm) and though we are still using Openbox we are using a different GUI tool (obconf-qt). That said, I would check to see if this is still valid.

[clepsdyrae (myopenid)]

Is 22.04.4 an appropriate version to test?

[ԜаӀtеr Ⅼарсһуnѕkі (wxl)]

Sure, but it might be worthwhile to check both it and 23.10.

[clepsdyrae (myopenid)]

Thanks, I hope to have some time in April to check it out.