2016.rc1 win7 64bit crashes during import

[Urs Obernolte]

During import of 16bit tif images (60 images of roughly 15MP/100MB size each) it crashes.

Only change in Settings: Imagecache 6000MB. If it is set to standard 256MB it doesnt crash, so may be the 64bit msi installer isn´t 64bit?

That would accord to Freier Speicher: (free Ram) 4194303 kiB ...

The imagecache setting should test if the settings are useful and correct.

Machine is:
Dell Precision 5810 Workstation @ 32G Ram

Betriebssystem: Windows 7 (build 7601, Service Pack 1), 64-bit edition
Architektur: 64 bit
Freier Speicher: 4194303 kiB
Aktive Codepage: 1252 (Western European Windows)

Hugin
Version: 2016.0.0.3b4e2790cb90 built by Jan Dubiec <email address hidden>
Ressourcen-Pfad: C:\Program Files (x86)\Hugin\share\hugin\xrc\
Datenpfad: C:\Program Files (x86)\Hugin\share\hugin\data\
Hugins Kamera- und Objektivdatenbank: C:\Users\urs.obernolte\AppData\Roaming\hugin\camlens.db
Multi-Threading mittels C++11 std::thread und OpenMP
Monitorprofile: C:\Windows\system32\spool\drivers\color\Samsung PnP- (Standard)-1.icm

Bibliotheken
wxWidgets: wxWidgets 3.1
wxWidgets Library (wxMSW port)
Version 3.1.0 (Unicode: wchar_t, debug level: 1),
compiled at Mar 27 2016 18:20:50

Runtime version of toolkit used is 6.1.

libpano13: 2.9.19
Boost: 1.60.0
Exiv2: 0.25
SQLite3: 3.10.2
Vigra: 1.11.0
LittleCMS2: 2.7

[Urs Obernolte (urs-obernolte)]

More Problems arise:

After setting the image cache to 256MB (standard) it loads the images. When i click "align" it fails:

Hugin's cpfind 2016.0.0.3b4e2790cb90 built by Jan Dubiec <email address hidden>
based on Pan-o-matic by Anael Orlinski

The available memory does not allow running 12 threads parallel.
Running cpfind with 7 threads.

Project contains the following images:
Image 0
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6801_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 1
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6802_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 2
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6803_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 3
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6804_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 4
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6805_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 5
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6806_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 6
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6807_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 7
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6808_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 8
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6809_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 9
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6810_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 10
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6811_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 11
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6812_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 12
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6813_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 13
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6814_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 14
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6815_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 15
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6816_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 16
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6817_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 17
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6818_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 18
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6819_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 19
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6820_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 20
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6821_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 21
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6822_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 22
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6823_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 23
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6824_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 24
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6825_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 25
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6826_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 26
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6827_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 27
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6828_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 28
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6829_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 29
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6830_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 30
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6831_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 31
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6832_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 32
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6833_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 33
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6834_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 34
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6835_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 35
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6836_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 36
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6837_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 37
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6838_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 38
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6839_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 39
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6840_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 40
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6841_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 41
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6842_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 42
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6843_1.tif
  Remapped : no
Image 43
  Imagefile: C:\20160711\DSC_6844_...

[tmodes (tmodes)]

There are several issues in one ticket:
1.) There is no 2016.0 rc1 on sourceforge. From the versions numbers it appears this refers to release version 2016.0. But we have currently a 2016.2 rc1.
2.) With 32 GB RAM only 4 GB free?? That would be a big memory usage.
3.) The programs are 64 bit. But an internal variable was 32 bit only. So the image cache setting works only up to 2 GB. This is fixed in the repository. There it should also support bigger image cache values.
4.) The cpfind issue: The image cache setting has no effect on running cpfind.
4.1) One issue could be that only a small portion of the whole memory is usage (see free memory issue above). Try to increase the free memory or limit the number of threads for cpfind (add --ncores=2 or --ncores=4)
4.2) The 2016.0 version was built with another compiler. There are some issues with this combination. Try 2016.2 rc1.

[Urs Obernolte (urs-obernolte)]

ok, i will check that tomorrow and reply.

thanks in advance!

[Urs Obernolte (urs-obernolte)]

Ok, i checked twice now ;-)

@1. / 4.1

I Have installed :

https://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2016.2/Hugin-2016.2.0-rc1-win64.msi/download

The About Hugin page states:

2016.0.0.3b4e2790cb90 built by Jan Dubiec <email address hidden>

Operating System: Windows 7 (build 7601, Service Pack 1), 64-bit edition
Architecture: 64 bit
Free memory: 4194303 kiB
Active Codepage: 1252 (Western European Windows)

Hugin
Version: 2016.0.0.3b4e2790cb90 built by Jan Dubiec <email address hidden>
Path to resources: C:\Program Files (x86)\Hugin\share\hugin\xrc\
Path to data: C:\Program Files (x86)\Hugin\share\hugin\data\
Hugins camera and lens database: C:\Users\urs.obernolte\AppData\Roaming\hugin\camlens.db
Multi-threading using C++11 std::thread and OpenMP
Monitor profile: C:\Windows\system32\spool\drivers\color\Samsung PnP- (Standard)-1.icm

Libraries
wxWidgets: wxWidgets 3.1
wxWidgets Library (wxMSW port)
Version 3.1.0 (Unicode: wchar_t, debug level: 1),
compiled at Mar 27 2016 18:20:50

Runtime version of toolkit used is 6.1.

libpano13: 2.9.19
Boost: 1.60.0
Exiv2: 0.25
SQLite3: 3.10.2
Vigra: 1.11.0
LittleCMS2: 2.7

@2. / 4.1

Windows Ressourcemanager:

In Use: 8203
Available: 24311
Hardware reserved: 76
Changed: 184
Standby: 20162
Free: 4151

(I have typed them, so some MB may be different)

Maybe not the Available Ram is used but instead the Free Ram - that would mean Hugin would read the wrong variable.

I will restart now and after that i will check the RAM issue a second time.

[Urs Obernolte (urs-obernolte)]

After restart:

Windows Resourcemanager:

In Use: 6350
Available: 26147
Hardware reserved: 76
Changed: 200
Standby: 6157
Free: 20000

Hugin:

Operating System: Windows 7 (build 7601, Service Pack 1), 64-bit edition
Architecture: 64 bit
Free memory: 4194303 kiB
Active Codepage: 1252 (Western European Windows)

Hugin
Version: 2016.0.0.3b4e2790cb90 built by Jan Dubiec <email address hidden>
Path to resources: C:\Program Files (x86)\Hugin\share\hugin\xrc\
Path to data: C:\Program Files (x86)\Hugin\share\hugin\data\
Hugins camera and lens database: C:\Users\urs.obernolte\AppData\Roaming\hugin\camlens.db
Multi-threading using C++11 std::thread and OpenMP
Monitor profile: C:\Windows\system32\spool\drivers\color\Samsung PnP- (Standard)-1.icm

Libraries
wxWidgets: wxWidgets 3.1
wxWidgets Library (wxMSW port)
Version 3.1.0 (Unicode: wchar_t, debug level: 1),
compiled at Mar 27 2016 18:20:50

Runtime version of toolkit used is 6.1.

libpano13: 2.9.19
Boost: 1.60.0
Exiv2: 0.25
SQLite3: 3.10.2
Vigra: 1.11.0
LittleCMS2: 2.7

[Urs Obernolte (urs-obernolte)]

The Problem mentioned with cpfind scales with the number of workers.

1 Worker: reaches image 35, then stops
2 Worker: reaches image 23, then stops
3 Worker: reaches image 9, then stops
4 Worker: reaches image 8, then stops
5 Worker: reaches image 8, then stops
12 Workers set, 7 used due to RAM issue: reaches image 7, then stops

[tmodes (tmodes)]

Sorry, but there is something strange on your side:

> I Have installed : https://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2016.2/Hugin-2016.2.0-rc1-win64.msi/download
> The About Hugin page states: 2016.0.0.3b4e2790cb90 built by Jan Dubiec <email address hidden>

The 2016.2 rc1 states:
2016.2.0.48cb11a23351 built by Thomas

Either your installation is corrupted or you have installed both versions and calling the old one.

[Urs Obernolte (urs-obernolte)]

Yes, its perfectly possible to install 2 versions of Hugin... my shame.

Starting the correct one:

Betriebssystem: Windows 7 (build 7601, Service Pack 1), 64-bit edition
Architektur: 64 bit
Freier Speicher: 26713800 kiB
Aktive Codepage: 1252 (Western European Windows)

Hugin
Version: 2016.2.0.48cb11a23351 built by Thomas
Ressourcen-Pfad: C:\Program Files\Hugin\share\hugin\xrc\
Datenpfad: C:\Program Files\Hugin\share\hugin\data\
Hugins Kamera- und Objektivdatenbank: C:\Users\urs.obernolte\AppData\Roaming\hugin\camlens.db
Multi-Threading mittels C++11 std::thread und OpenMP
Monitorprofile: C:\Windows\system32\spool\drivers\color\Samsung PnP- (Standard)-1.icm

Bibliotheken
wxWidgets: wxWidgets 3.1.1
wxWidgets Library (wxMSW port)
Version 3.1.1 (Unicode: wchar_t, debug level: 1),
compiled at Jul 6 2016 19:09:49

Runtime version of toolkit used is 6.1.

libpano13: 2.9.19
Exiv2: 0.25
SQLite3: 3.11.1
Vigra: 1.11.0
LittleCMS2: 2.7

Now i will try to reproduce / retest the errors i got.

[Urs Obernolte (urs-obernolte)]

All errors gone after uninstalling both, cleaning the registry and reinstalling 2016.2.
Maybe the installer should check that.

Thank you. I´m sorry for any inconvenience.