[Location Indicator Menu] GPS switch should be turned off when "Location detection" is off

Bug #1351299 reported by David Planella
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This bug affects 9 people
Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
Canonical System Image
Fix Released
High
Alejandro J. Cura
Ubuntu UX
Fix Released
High
Paty Davila
indicator-location (Ubuntu)
Fix Released
High
Xavi Garcia

Bug Description

After a conversation with tvoss, I understand that if I turn the "Location detection" switch off, effectively GPS will be turned off too.

However, the two switches are independent: I can switch "Location detection" off and the "GPS" switch will stay on. This might be confusing for users: I'd expect both switches to go off when turning "Location detection" off.

------ UX Comment ------

Location section in the Indicators spec has been updated with latest visuals and desired behaviour.

On tap of 'Location settings...', users can choose to use 'GPS only' (without using Here services) in the relevant System settings screen.

https://docs.google.com/document/edit?hgd=1&id=1810KDpFl2Mxsn1z3wehPU9pkbS6R6o-j1-pmYpkYb7A#heading=h.jh8j7gb6bo0s

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David Planella (dpm)
tags: added: avengers
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Leo Arias (elopio) wrote :

I find the location indicator really confusing because of this.

Changed in indicator-location:
status: New → Confirmed
tags: added: qa-daily-testing rtm14
Thomas Strehl (strehl-t)
tags: added: touch-2014-10-09
Changed in indicator-location:
assignee: nobody → Charles Kerr (charlesk)
Stephen M. Webb (bregma)
Changed in indicator-location:
importance: Undecided → High
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dobey (dobey) wrote :

How would one enable GPS, but not use HERE, if both are disabled? For example, I'd prefer to avoid using HERE, but only use GPS for location detection. Right now, Location is always being turned on for me, even though I've never actually accepted the TOS for HERE on the phone.

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Charles Kerr (charlesk) wrote :

It's valid to want GPS without HERE, so I don't think we should tie these two features together like this tickets suggest.

IMO the reason the indicator is confusing because of the phrasing.

For one example, what if the indicator said:

[X] Use Wi-Fi and cell towers to find Location
    Click for HERE terms and conditions
[X] Use GPS to find Location

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Charles Kerr (charlesk) wrote :

To be clearer on the last comment -- IMO the indicator is confusing because the first action currently reads "Location detection" and the second reads "GPS", which to the casual observer is a subset of location detection.

My suggestion above was to reduce this confusion by making it clearer that these are two sibling options, instead of a global and subset option.

Vesa Rautiainen (vesar)
Changed in ubuntu-ux:
importance: Undecided → High
status: New → Triaged
assignee: nobody → James Mulholland (jamesjosephmulholland)
Thomas Strehl (strehl-t)
tags: added: touch-2014-10-16
removed: touch-2014-10-09
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Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) wrote :

Location in general has four UI points: the first-run setup, the location indicator, System Settings "Location" screen, and the prompt where trust-store asks you to grant an app access to your location. Changing one without changing the others would introduce inconsistency.

Probably we should start from the prompt -- because that is under constraints such as "don't show more than one prompt about the same thing" -- and from there design the solution for the other three.

affects: indicator-location → indicator-location (Ubuntu)
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Charles Kerr (charlesk) wrote :

Marking as Incomplete in indicator-location (Ubuntu) pending Design feedback from UX

Charles Kerr (charlesk)
Changed in indicator-location (Ubuntu):
status: Confirmed → Incomplete
John Lea (johnlea)
summary: - GPS switch should be turned off when "Location detection" is off
+ [Location Indicator Menu] GPS switch should be turned off when "Location
+ detection" is off
Changed in ubuntu-ux:
assignee: James Mulholland (jamesjosephmulholland) → Paty Davila (dizzypaty)
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Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

Changed in location-service (Ubuntu):
status: New → Confirmed
Changed in trust-store (Ubuntu):
status: New → Confirmed
Changed in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu):
status: New → Confirmed
Paty Davila (dizzypaty)
Changed in ubuntu-ux:
status: Triaged → In Progress
Changed in location-service (Ubuntu):
status: Confirmed → Incomplete
Changed in trust-store (Ubuntu):
status: Confirmed → Incomplete
Changed in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu):
status: Confirmed → Incomplete
Changed in canonical-devices-system-image:
status: New → Incomplete
Paty Davila (dizzypaty)
description: updated
Changed in ubuntu-ux:
status: In Progress → Fix Committed
Changed in canonical-devices-system-image:
status: Incomplete → Triaged
Changed in indicator-location (Ubuntu):
status: Incomplete → Triaged
Changed in canonical-devices-system-image:
importance: Undecided → High
assignee: nobody → Alejandro J. Cura (alecu)
Changed in canonical-devices-system-image:
milestone: none → ww46-2015
Changed in indicator-location (Ubuntu):
assignee: Charles Kerr (charlesk) → Xavi Garcia (xavi-garcia-mena)
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Xavi Garcia (xavi-garcia-mena) wrote :

I've pushed the following branch that removes the GPS entry and adds Location Settings at the end.

The location settings uses the following url: settings:///system/security-privacy as it is the closest we can get to the location entry in system settings.

As discussed with seb128, the url to access location is pending.

Changed in indicator-location (Ubuntu):
status: Triaged → Fix Committed
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Alejandro J. Cura (alecu) wrote :

Since it's adding a new string this will need to land in OTA-9

Changed in canonical-devices-system-image:
milestone: ww46-2015 → ww02-2016
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Selene ToyKeeper (toykeeper) wrote :

While this technically closes the bug, it also makes location controls less convenient and harder to access. Would it be possible to have the control in both the indicator and in system settings, in addition to the new link in the indicator? Is there a way to do a 3-way toggle in the indicator? (off / gps-only / full)

Changed in canonical-devices-system-image:
status: Triaged → In Progress
Changed in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu):
status: Incomplete → Confirmed
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Robin Heroldich (robinheroldich) wrote :

Hi! Any progress with this issue? I really don't like the new behaviour of the Location Indicator. Now if I want to navigate with my phone, I need to enable Location Detection on the indicator, then go to the System Settings app -> Battery -> and enable the GPS. This is not the best solution. I don't want the GPS enabled all the time, so now I need to open the System Settings every time to enable/disable it, and the app starts really slow...

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Pat McGowan (pat-mcgowan) wrote :

Marking this part fixed.
Added bug #1533835 for the direct locaiton panel access
Added bug #1533837 with suggestion to remove the gps control which seems to be confusing
Suggested bug #1533842 as well to indicate when gps is in use

Changed in canonical-devices-system-image:
status: In Progress → Fix Committed
no longer affects: location-service (Ubuntu)
no longer affects: trust-store (Ubuntu)
no longer affects: ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu)
Changed in indicator-location (Ubuntu):
status: Fix Committed → Fix Released
Changed in ubuntu-ux:
status: Fix Committed → Fix Released
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Pat McGowan (pat-mcgowan) wrote :

@robin its not really necessary to disable the gps from settings, as I indicated in the new bug it is managed automatically and is only active when an app is requesting it and you have location enabled.

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Robin Heroldich (robinheroldich) wrote :

@pat: Ah, thanks for the clarification. Then, as you already mentioned in one of your bug reports, you should remove the GPS switch from the Battery page, because it is confusing the users. I don't think it is a hard task, so could you do that before OTA-9, or we need to wait for OTA-10?

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Pat McGowan (pat-mcgowan) wrote :

@robin we will wait for the UI designer voice an opinion on that so it will be ota 10

Changed in canonical-devices-system-image:
status: Fix Committed → Fix Released
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