Ubiquity: Tajik Language Support

[Victor Ibragimov]

Hi,

Currently we keep working on Tajik (tgk/tg) translations for Ubuntu and have good statistics for translated files. To test our recent translations and improve any found errors we have downloaded Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) Daily Build on April 17, 2013 at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ and Tajik (Тоҷикӣ) language in not listed for the Installation process.

Could you please, create an Ubuntu language pack for Tajik and list Tajik Language for the installation option.

Thank you,
Victor Ibragimov
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Tajik Ubuntu Localization Team

[Martin Pitt (pitti)]

Language packs for Tajik have existed for pretty much "ever": language-pack-tg, language-pack-gnome-tg. You can also select this in language-selector. What's apparently missing is the language selection in the CD boot screen and ubiquity?

[Victor Ibragimov (victor-ibragimov)]

Yes, the language selection in the CD boot screen and ubiquity is missing.

[Victor Ibragimov (victor-ibragimov)]

Hi, just want to make sure this bug is not forgotten or lost.

[Victor Ibragimov (victor-ibragimov)]

To whom it may concern,

Hi, just would like to check if this bug was not lost or forgotten to add Tajik language into the selection screen - still is not there.

Victor Ibragimov
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Tajik Ubuntu Localization Team

[Dimitri John Ledkov (xnox)]

Indeed translations for Tajik language are very good so far.
It would be great to contribute Tajik translations into Debian as well:
http://d-i.debian.org/l10n-stats/ - For the installer
http://www.debian.org/international/l10n/po/tg - For other translations

I will ping people around who have done new language enablement in the installer before.

[Victor Ibragimov (victor-ibragimov)]

To whom it may concern,

Hi, Tajik translations for the Debian Installer are now 100% complete and currently supported to keep the translations updated! Statistics for Tajik ubuntu translations also looks nice, the other translations are ongoing directly on the upstreams. I just would like to remind you about this bug to add Tajik into the CD boot screen and/or ubiquity installer, so we have more Tajik for the next release.

Thank you in advance!

Victor Ibragimov
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Tajik Ubuntu Localization Team

[Marcus Tomlinson (marcustomlinson)]

This release of Ubuntu is no longer receiving maintenance updates. If this is still an issue on a maintained version of Ubuntu please let us know.

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj)]

Tajik (tg) has been added to the languagelist file in localechooser, so this bug seems to be fixed.

[Victor Ibragimov (victor-ibragimov)]

Hi,

Thank you so much for adding Tajik language (Тоҷикӣ) to the languagelist file in localechooser!
Please, let me know if now it is available on a daily build iso, so I can test and improve Tajik translations if needed.

Thank you for prompt reply and have a great day!
Victor

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj)]

@Victor: It has been selectable there for quite some time. But since the tg language packs are not present on the ISO, the "Try Ubuntu" option is not sufficient to test translations. The best way to do that is to actually install the current development version of Ubuntu and use Tajik as the display language.

[Victor Ibragimov (victor-ibragimov)]

Hi,
Tajik is in Ubuntu from the beginning!
However, for some reasons the language name Тоҷикӣ is not listed on the very start screen of the install process, or when you press F2 after you insert the installation CD or start to install Ubuntu from any other media.

I will check if Тоҷикӣ is now listed on 20.04 version on the very start screen of the install process by pressing the F2 key

[Steve Langasek (vorlon)]

I don't see Tajik support in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal/main/installer-amd64/current/images/cdrom/debian-cd_info.tar.gz which is the source of the translated menus presented from the isolinux bootloader. This would need to be included there for sure in order to have localized menus in the bootloader, but I also haven't tracked down yet where the list of languages comes from since it doesn't appear to be in either the debian-installer cd tarball, the debian-cd repository, or the syslinux source.

[Steve Langasek (vorlon)]

ok the isolinux boot screen comes from gfxboot-theme-ubuntu.

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj)]

Thanks for that input, Steve!

[Victor Ibragimov (victor-ibragimov)]

Hi Steve,

Could you please, check and send/link to the files, that need to be translated into Tajik, so they can be included and Ubuntu in Tajik shown properly among the other languages once Тоҷикӣ is selected.
The file gfxboot-theme-ubuntu looks 100% translated and I will recheck it again for spelling and other issues. Regarding the contents of http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal/main/installer-amd64/current/images/cdrom/debian-cd_info.tar.gz there are files like *.hlp and *.hlp.live and it looks like they need to be translated - do they come from the Launchpad?

Kind regards,
Victor Ibragimov

[Steve Langasek (vorlon)]

The Tajik translation in gfxboot-theme-ubuntu seems to be complete, the only thing that was missing was to include Тоҷикӣ in the menu. I've uploaded the package now with this change, and once there is a new build of the debian-installer source package including this change, it should take effect for the focal daily images.

[Launchpad Janitor (janitor)]

This bug was fixed in the package gfxboot-theme-ubuntu - 0.22.0

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gfxboot-theme-ubuntu (0.22.0) focal; urgency=medium

  * langnames.inc: add Tajik to the list of languages to be included in the
    isolinux language selector. Closes: #1171844.

 -- Steve Langasek <email address hidden> Sun, 08 Mar 2020 00:03:19 -0800

[Victor Ibragimov (victor-ibragimov)]

Hi,

I have downloaded Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa) Daily Build released on 2020-03-15 07:59 to see and test Tajik language, and it is still not listed among the other languages.

Could you please, refer on where to track changes applied for Tajik to make sure it is included into the ISO image and save on Internet traffic for the next download.

Thank you and have a great day!
Victor Ibragimov

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj)]

@Victor: Talked with Steve on IRC, and he just uploaded gfxboot-theme-ubuntu again with a correction.

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gfxboot-theme-ubuntu/0.23.0

It will take effect only after debian-installer has been built again, though.

[Victor Ibragimov (victor-ibragimov)]

Hi,

It is just like a magic! Tajik (Тоҷикӣ) is now listed among the other languages to start Ubuntu installation or trial from the very first screen when you insert a CD/DVD or use an ISO image.

However, it seems to be there is an error with encoding to correctly show all Tajik characters. In the name of language "Тоҷикӣ" some characters are missing: ҷ and ӣ making it to display as Тоик. It should be displayed correctly as "Тоҷикӣ". A screen capture attached for your reference to see the issue.

Could you please, include UTF-8 encoding to support the display of all Tajik characters.

Thank you for prompt reply,
Victor

[Victor Ibragimov (victor-ibragimov)]

Hi,

The next screen, after the language is selected, has the same encoding issue. Some Tajik characters are missing. For example, "Саниши офиза" should be displayed as "Санҷиши ҳофиза". A screen capture attached for your reference to see the issue.

Hope to see this issue fixed soon.

Have a wonderful day!
Victor Ibragimov

[Steve Langasek (vorlon)]

gfxboot-theme-ubuntu appears to have needed a manual update of the console font to ensure that it includes all the required codepoints. I've done this now and uploaded it to groovy.

[Victor Ibragimov (victor-ibragimov)]

Hi Steve,

I have tested it again on 2020-05-25 09:10 - 2.5G - groovy-desktop-amd64.iso
and menu is now empty. A screen capture attached for your reference to see the issue.
Could you please, re-check the applied manual update.

Have a great day!
Victor Ibragimov

[Victor Ibragimov (victor-ibragimov)]

Hi,

Translation of new strings for gfxboot-theme-ubuntu package into Tajik language (Тоҷикӣ) is now 100% complete.

Kind regards,
Victor Ibragimov

[Dimitri John Ledkov (xnox)]

Ok, so is everything done now? Or something needs doing?

[Victor Ibragimov (victor-ibragimov)]

Hi,

Translation is 100% complete and the encoding issue seems still needs to be fixed.

Kind regards,
Victor

[Brian Murray (brian-murray)]

Dimitri uploaded a new version of gfxboot-theme-ubuntu on 2020-05-28 and it is not clear to me from the comments if that version of the package was tested. Was it? If not could you please test the latest Groovy iso? Thanks again for all of your help testing.

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj)]

@Brian: Your question makes me think of this comment by Steve:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/localechooser/+bug/1864680/comments/32

Or are you asking with a possible focal SRU in mind?

[Victor Ibragimov (victor-ibragimov)]

Hi,

The last time I tested Ubuntu daily build for this bug I got a black blank screen and I am not sure if that was one of the daily build ISO image or my laptop behavior.

Please, advise if the current daily build of Ubuntu 20.10 (Groovy Gorilla) is OK to test, so I download the image again and perform the full test for Tajik Language and send a detailed report: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/

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By the way, for the current Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa) there are encoding issues for Tajik Language and some text still have untranslated texts, but looks like i have translated them all 100%.
This is just to make sure that Ubuntu 20.10 (Groovy Gorilla) have those all those translated strings applied. Well, new test will show it.

[Victor Ibragimov (victor-ibragimov)]

Hi,

It looks like that now there is no language menu in the bootloader for the current daily build of Ubuntu 20.10 (Groovy Gorilla) Daily Build at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/. Also the Installer could not be launched to check Tajik language.

I suggest there should be a language menu in the bootloader, so users could select on what they want to do with the Ubuntu - to try or to install it - in their native language.

For the current build without a language menu it takes a user to load a Live Ubuntu in English, have some third-party translated instruction on how to change language into their native language and so on.

Please, check if the menu could be returned.

Thank you for prompt reply,
Victor ibragimov

[Victor Ibragimov (victor-ibragimov)]

One more screenshot

[Victor Ibragimov (victor-ibragimov)]

attached now

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj)]

Victor,

https://launchpadlibrarian.net/491841126/Ubuntu%2020.10%20%28Groovy%20Gorilla%29%20Daily%20Build.PNG

That's grub, and selecting "Ubuntu" there should take you to Ubiquity's welcome window (i.e. when it works):

https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop#3-boot-from-dvd

To the left of that window there is another list of languages, where Tajik is included. Please see Steve's comment which I linked to in my previous comment on this bug report. I suspect it's related.

On 2020-08-04 15:35, Victor Ibragimov wrote:
> I suggest there should be a language menu in the bootloader, so
> users could select on what they want to do with the Ubuntu - to try
> or to install it - in their native language.
Being able to "Try Ubuntu" in your native language easily is quite a different topic. Currently that's possible only for the most used languages among Ubuntu users, i.e. the ISO includes language packs only for those languages. For the bulk of languages (including Tajik), and even if you select it at the welcome window and "Try Ubuntu", most of the menus and windows will be in English.

Brian posted this message on the topic a while ago:

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2020-March/040942.html

Don't know if any progress has been made since.

[Victor Ibragimov (victor-ibragimov)]

Gunnar,

Good, in this case, if it takes a user to the Ubiquity's Welcome window, then it is OK, Tajik language should be there.

By the way, could someone please, let me know if there is a way to install Ubiquity's Welcome window (Ubuntu Installer) from the development branch (the latest version), launch it on a working system from Desktop (terminal) and test it to see all the Tajik translations, and improve them by making translations to read as if they originally were created in Tajik language. In most cases a live reference is needed to make perfect translations.

Have a great day!
Victor

[Dimitri John Ledkov (xnox)]

On Tue, 4 Aug 2020, 01:05 Brian Murray, <email address hidden> wrote:

> Dimitri uploaded a new version of gfxboot-theme-ubuntu on 2020-05-28 and
> it is not clear to me from the comments if that version of the package
> was tested. Was it? If not could you please test the latest Groovy iso?
> Thanks again for all of your help testing.
>
>
Groovy no longer uses gfxboot. So this package update is not possible to
test with groovy Isos anymore.

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj)]

On 2020-08-04 18:28, Victor Ibragimov wrote:
> By the way, could someone please, let me know if there is a way to
> install Ubiquity's Welcome window (Ubuntu Installer) from the
> development branch (the latest version), launch it on a working
> system from Desktop (terminal) and test it to see all the Tajik
> translations, and improve them by making translations to read as if
> they originally were created in Tajik language.

That's a question which would fit well on the ubuntu-translators mailing list. Some other translator might be able to explain how it could be accomplished.

https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators