Option "Re-analyse beats" hard to understand

[Daniel Schürmann]

Current string is this:

Re-analyse beats when settings change or beats already present
(e.g. from 3rd-party programs or older Mixxx versions)

Proposed string:

Re-analyse beats when settings change or beats are outdated
e.g. from 3rd-party programs or older Mixxx versions.
(Not checked: Analyse only, if no beats exist.)

Can one native speaker review this?

Candidate for 1.11 with the risk of staying untranslated?

[Daniel Schürmann (daschuer)]

I would like also to commit the attached patch. It reorders the according code removes outdated comments and gives a clean debug log. I hope I did not get confused and the code logic is still unchanged.

The string change is not included.

[jus (jus)]

Indeed, this needs some wording from a native speaker. Can a beat get outdated, or are we talking about beat detection data?

The specific menu point is already too long imo. Explanatory notes should go into tooltips. I propose a menu point similar to:
* Re-analyse beats when settings change or beat detection data is outdated

The rest -> tooltips.

[RJ Skerry-Ryan (rryan)]

If a version of Mixxx generated the beat data from before 1.11 then we consider that "outdated".

I think making it less long would be good though I wanted to stress that if you had this checked it would overwrite your old data from Mixxx 1.10.

[Daniel Schürmann (daschuer)]

I will prepare the following:

Re-analyse beats when settings change or beat detection data is outdated

Tooltip:
e.g. from 3rd-party programs or Mixxx versions before 1.11.
(Not checked: Analyse only, if no beats exist.)

[Daniel Schürmann (daschuer)]

Commited to lp:mixxx/1.11 #3562

[jus (jus)]

At the risk of being a nitpicker, i dont think the tooltip text from #4 is good.
We should not forget that a translator does not have a context, he does not know what "e.g. ..." refers to. Same for "Not checked:.." since he does not know we are talking about a checkbox. The ""Not checked: ..." is redundant since we dont have tooltips in other menu points talking about what happens when something not happens.

Also it is not clear what kind of "settings change" qualifies for renewed beat analysis.

[Daniel Schürmann (daschuer)]

Hey Jus, never mind! we need nitpickers to make mixxx almost perfect! :-)

Do you have a proposal?

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Although I do not like those tooltips at all. I think most of the new users who should read those tool tips will not find them. Because at least you need to reckon that there is a tooltip, to to rest with the mouse waiting for it.

What about (for 1.12) to introduce an static info area right of the preferences pain where we could display much more prose then in a single tooltip.
Eclipse for instance has such a field.

[Daniel Schürmann (daschuer)]

Last part becomes Bug #1090892

[jus (jus)]

I would like to submit a proposal to fix this string before 1.11 final.

What is the context of the current tooltip "Re-analyse beats when settings change..."?
What kind of "settings change" is meant, changing any setting in the Beat detection preferences or a specific setting?

[Swiftb0y (swiftb0y)]

Mixxx now uses GitHub for bug tracking. This bug has been migrated to:
https://github.com/mixxxdj/mixxx/issues/6717