All 'windows' are missing their 'frames and the panel in general is not working correctly

[Bill Hand]

Binary package hint: gnome-panel

I run dual separate monitors, and the right monitor mouse stays an 'X' instead of changing to the 'pointer'. None of the windows I open have 'frames' and always seem to open in the top right of the monitor and no way to move them anywhere else. The 'desktop sessions' are no longer displayed on the bottom panels. This happened with the last nvidia update, but I was able to reset the window and theme settings, etc and get things back working right. This time nothing seems to work.

ProblemType: Bug
Architecture: i386
Date: Fri Apr 13 14:01:41 2007
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 7.04
ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/gnome-panel
Package: gnome-panel 1:2.18.1-0ubuntu3
PackageArchitecture: i386
ProcCmdline: gnome-panel --sm-config-prefix /gnome-panel-FRVakZ/ --sm-client-id 117f000101000117364758500000114340002 --screen 0
ProcCwd: /home/crazyeccentric
ProcEnviron:
 PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
 LANG=en_US.UTF-8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
SourcePackage: gnome-panel
Uname: Linux CrazyEccentric 2.6.20-14-generic #2 SMP Thu Apr 12 22:53:19 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux

[Bill Hand (fxwgbill-gmail)]

Well this is interesting. I rechecked Synaptic to see if possibly another update to nVidia had been added and I found that there was. I downloaded the update and rebooted my machine and the aforementioned 'appearance' was still there; no window frames, mouse cursor wrong on monitor one. I tried adjusting the theme and window settings to no avail but just as a hunch, I loaded up the Beryl 'manager' and as soon as it was in the system tray, everything corrected itself. Now... I do have Beryl installed, but I don't use it, because it only works on one of the monitors, which is exactly what I was getting. I have kept it on here to check it from time to time to see if he dual monitor issue has been resolved... Maybe I should uninstall it?

The point is that I am not sure if 'yall' want to close this bug, or keep it active until a little more data is gathered up; bottom line is that both of my desktops are working correctly now.

Bill

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

The description looks like there is no window manager running

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

Do you have a .gnomerc? Did you use a non official gnome-compiz-manager since you installed Ubuntu?

[Bill Hand (fxwgbill-gmail)]

No... Everything is from synaptic and the 'normal' repos

Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> Do you have a .gnomerc? Did you use a non official gnome-compiz-manager
> since you installed Ubuntu?
>
>

[Bill Hand (fxwgbill-gmail)]

Dangit... Now I am back to the original problem I had, ie when right
clicking on the top of the window frame to... say... move the window to
another desktop, both monitors cycle through all the desktops. This is
right after the upgrade to the -15 kernel and I didn't see the nvidia
stuff for -15 yet... Prob all it is.

And definitely no on the .gnomerc

Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> Do you have a .gnomerc? Did you use a non official gnome-compiz-manager
> since you installed Ubuntu?
>
>

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

That's not clear, what bug do you have exactly now?

[Bill Hand (fxwgbill-gmail)]

Not trying to be silly or anything, but at this point I'm not sure!
Gettin all kinds of weird stuff and to top it all off, launchpad isn't
working either. It started with the frames missing, got that back, then
the windows cycling when trying to right click on the frame and just now
the panel crashed and restarted again and launchpad hasn't done a thing
with any of it...

Bill

Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> That's not clear, what bug do you have exactly now?
>
>

[Bill Hand (fxwgbill-gmail)]

OK... It looks like it all comes down to Nautilus crashing and it seems
like it has to do with moving files around in the 'File Browser' on the
'right of' screen. All desktop icons disappear and once I click 'ok' in
the below fault window, Nautilus starts back up and one File Browser
window, no matter how many I had open, comes back up, but on the main
screen. Also part of this, is that right clicking on any 'window frame'
such as to 'move to a different desktop' causes both screens to cycle
through each open window on each desktop; I have four desktops for each
of the two screens.

The other thing is that when it does all this, including crashing, it
isn't generating a crash report anymore and I know I didn't tell it not
to; I believe that is a selection when the bug report thingy comes up.
I'm not sure how to check that, though, or where I can reset it.

Anyway... below is the fault window that comes up:

"Nautilus can't be used now, due to an unexpected error." is the
'window' heading

and the 'details' are:

Nautilus can't be used now, due to an unexpected error from Bonobo when
attempting to locate the factory.Killing bonobo-activation-server and
restarting Nautilus may help fix the problem.

and as I said, when I click on the ok, Nautilus comes back up.

Bill

Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> That's not clear, what bug do you have exactly now?
>
>

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

Could you get a backtrace as described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace and attach it to a comment?

[Bill Hand (fxwgbill-gmail)]

I'll work on it here in just a bit; this happens every time I turn
around, so it shouldn't be hard to get the data you need.

Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> Could you get a backtrace as described on
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace and attach it to a comment?
>
> ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu)
> Sourcepackagename: gnome-panel => nautilus
> Importance: Undecided => Medium
> Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs
> Status: Unconfirmed => Needs Info
>
>

[Bill Hand (fxwgbill-gmail)]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO k....

Still trying to get nautilus to crash; shouldn't be much longer.

This is the backtrace with the windows 'cycling' when right clicking on
the frame:

GNU gdb 6.6-debian
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welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain
conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
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This GDB was configured as "i486-linux-gnu".
(gdb) handle SIG33 pass nostop noprint
Signal Stop Print Pass to program Description
SIG33 No No Yes Real-time event 33
(gdb) set pagination 0
(gdb) attach 9335
Attaching to process 9335
ptrace: No such process.
(gdb) attach 933511059
Attaching to process 11059
Reading symbols from /usr/bin/nautilus...Reading symbols from
/usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/nautilus...done.
Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1".
done.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libbeagle.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libbeagle.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libnautilus-extension.so.1...Reading
symbols from /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libnautilus-extension.so.1.1.0...done.
done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libnautilus-extension.so.1
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libeel-2.so.2...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libeel-2.so.2
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgailutil.so.18...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgailutil.so.18
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libglade-2.0.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libglade-2.0.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/librsvg-2.so.2...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/librsvg-2.so.2
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/liblaunchpad-integration.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/liblaunchpad-integration.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libesd.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libesd.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgnome-desktop-2.so.2...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgnome-desktop-2.so.2
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgnomecanvas-2.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgnomecanvas-2.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgnome-2.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgnome-2.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libart_lgpl_2.so.2...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libart_lgpl_2.so.2
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/...

[Bill Hand (fxwgbill-gmail)]

I did that wrong; didn't complete the last part of the instructions,
will get that to you ASAP

Bill

Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> Could you get a backtrace as described on
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace and attach it to a comment?
>
> ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu)
> Sourcepackagename: gnome-panel => nautilus
> Importance: Undecided => Medium
> Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs
> Status: Unconfirmed => Needs Info
>
>

[Bill Hand (fxwgbill-gmail)]

OK....

First I am putting the crash / exit info:

Program exited with code 01.
(gdb) backtrace
No stack.
(gdb) info registers
The program has no registers now.
(gdb) thread apply all backtrace
(gdb) quit

And the rest:

GNU gdb 6.6-debian
Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain
conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i486-linux-gnu".
(gdb) handle SIG33 pass nostop noprint
Signal Stop Print Pass to program Description
SIG33 No No Yes Real-time event 33
(gdb) set pagination 0
(gdb) attach 23523
Attaching to process 23523
Reading symbols from /usr/bin/nautilus...Reading symbols from
/usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/nautilus...done.
Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1".
done.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libbeagle.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libbeagle.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libnautilus-extension.so.1...Reading
symbols from /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libnautilus-extension.so.1.1.0...done.
done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libnautilus-extension.so.1
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libeel-2.so.2...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libeel-2.so.2
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgailutil.so.18...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgailutil.so.18
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libglade-2.0.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libglade-2.0.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/librsvg-2.so.2...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/librsvg-2.so.2
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/liblaunchpad-integration.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/liblaunchpad-integration.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libesd.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libesd.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgnome-desktop-2.so.2...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgnome-desktop-2.so.2
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgnomecanvas-2.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgnomecanvas-2.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgnome-2.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgnome-2.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libart_lgpl_2.so.2...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libart_lgpl_2.so.2
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libb...

[Sitsofe Wheeler (sitsofe)]

Bill:
Are you using compiz/beryl?

[Bill Hand (fxwgbill-gmail)]

It's on here, but it doesn't work with the two separate x screens, so
it's always off. I've tried to take it off, but the dependencies won't
let me, without taking the Ubuntu desktop, among other things... I
guess I could try and take both compiz and beryl off and try to
reinstall the desktop and see if I can force it to not let it load them
back up.

In answer to your question, though, no, I can't use them.

Sitsofe Wheeler wrote:
> Bill:
> Are you using compiz/beryl?
>
>

[Sitsofe Wheeler (sitsofe)]

Bill:
I'm not sure I understand your answer... Typically compiz is turned on or off by simply pressing the "Enable Desktop Effects" button in System -> Preferences -> Desktop Effects. I'm not sure what Beryl does. If creating a temporary new user for testing purposes has all the effects on then I guess you will have to uninstall beryl to turn it off. Just to check where did you get beryl (or compiz if you are using that) from?

[Sitsofe Wheeler (sitsofe)]

Bill:
Sorry I just misread your reply. Since you can't use them they can't be related to this bug (there are similar sounding issues to yours reported by people who are using them).

[Bill Hand (fxwgbill-gmail)]

ooooooooo K...

I un-installed, through Synaptic, everything Beryl/Compiz that I could;
all the Beryl is gone; minimum Compiz left. It's still doing exactly
what I described before. Guess that kind of means that it possibly
ISN'T Beryl's 'bug', with the other folks. I guess it's a panel
problem? or something with the Nvidia drivers... Well... Nautilus??
Ah! What graphics drivers are the other folks using? Surely not all
Nvidia folks.

Anyway.... With it all cleaned up and rebooted twice, (I forgot to do
something), the second screen still cycles through all windows, and that
is on BOTH screens mind you, when you click on the 'frame' of any window
on the second monitor; to move to other desktop, etc, you have to do it
from the task bar. Things work fine on the first monitor/screen0

Bill

Sitsofe Wheeler wrote:
> Bill:
> Sorry I just misread your reply. Since you can't use them they can't be related to this bug (there are similar sounding issues to yours reported by people who are using them).
>
>

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

Does moving .gnome2/session make it work? Do you use the session saving option?

[Bill Hand (fxwgbill-gmail)]

You may need to elaborate, but what I prefer to do, if I need to do a
reboot or shut down, (my puter stays on 24/7 365, (except VERY bad
weather)), is to shut everything down completely. I do have it set such
that if I forget to close something down, it will save it and load it
back up after reboot, but as I say, I do my best to always completely
close things down before reboot/shutting down. I have turned that off
before, but can't remember right off where it is done at.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by 'moving .gnome2/session';
please explain.

Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> Does moving .gnome2/session make it work? Do you use the session saving
> option?
>
>

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

open .gnome2 in your user directory and move the session file somewhere else

[Bill Hand (fxwgbill-gmail)]

ohhhh... ok....

So it makes a new one. I'll try that here in just a while and let ya
know...

Bill

Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> open .gnome2 in your user directory and move the session file somewhere
> else
>
>

[Bill Hand (fxwgbill-gmail)]

That was easy enough, and no joy. Brought the system back up and with
just Thunderbird and Firestarter open, I opened a File Browser window to
try and move it to another desktop, and same thing; both screens cycle
through each desktop.

Again, I want to mention that around two or three Nvidia upgrades ago,
it stopped doing this briefly.

Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> open .gnome2 in your user directory and move the session file somewhere
> else
>
>

[Bill Hand (fxwgbill-gmail)]

This has gotten so bad, I am switching to KDE till something can be
done. At this point the panel is crashing every time I turn around, ie
now I can't even right click on the task bar icons to move things
around, it crashes it there also. Something else that has been
bothering me is that apport isn't reporting the crashes, for that matter
ANY crashes, for a while now. At this time I am using KDE and apport
seems to be back working as I was greeted with several of the crashes
from gnome, and I can move things between desktops with no problem.
Something else I have just noticed is that in KDE I do truly have two
completely separate desktops and taskbars. With Gnome, proggys that
minimize to the taskbar are only visible on the main, (left) desktop
taskbar; nothing minimized on the right desktop is displayed. It would
almost seem that the second desktop, in Gnome, is NOT a completely
separate desktop, or at least it is missing a lot of the attributes that
the main desktop has. To me, KDE working properly suggests that the
problem has nothing to do with the xorg.conf file or X in general. Def
a Gnome problem.

(just thinking aloud)

Bill

Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> open .gnome2 in your user directory and move the session file somewhere
> else
>
>

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

your new comment is not clear, list different bugs, doesn't reply to the questions asked before, that's not the way to get the bug corrected

[Bill Hand (fxwgbill-gmail)]

It's still doing the same thing, except it's gotten worse. When you
right click on the window frames, to try and move a window to a
different desktop, it cycles through all the windows on both desktops.
I had a workaround, I could minimize the window to the task bar and
could right click it there and move the window to another desktop, but
now it won't do that.

Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> your new comment is not clear, list different bugs, doesn't reply to the
> questions asked before, that's not the way to get the bug corrected
>
>

[Bill Hand (fxwgbill-gmail)]

In addition....

I was pretty certain I had provided everything I could and had been
asked for, on this problem, is there something missing? or more that I
can look for? If so let me know...

Also... some additional info. I have switched over to KDE for now and
what I have discovered is that everything works perfect with the dual
screen setup. In Gnome the second desktop isn't TOTALLY a separate
desktop, ie the 'taskbar' only really works on the main screen; on the
second screen the taskbar is there, and you can see the various proggys
along it, but proggys that 'minimize to the taskbar' don't show up. I
have tried various settings changes to try and get it to work right, to
no avail.

The point I am trying to make is that it would seem that the nvidia-glx
driver, etc, and X itself must be ok and it is definitely a problem with
Gnome; I guess it would be the Gnome Panel? As I was saying, the
symptoms have worsened; any click on the frame on any window on the
second screen, to do _ANYTHING_ now, I might add, causes both screens to
cycle through each desktop and ultimately the panel to crash. (When it
is done cycling and Panel comes back up, it is back on the desktop that
I started with). This goes for right clicking on any proggy on the
_taskbar_ on the second screen now, as well. (This doesn't happen with
anything on the main screen.) Apport no longer tries to report it, and
I am not sure why. (Actually apport doesn't try to report any crash in
Gnome anymore, regardless of what it is. I guess I may need to file a
separate report on that.) When I brought up KDE, though, apport did
come up and try to report the Gnome crashes, so I'm not sure what the
difference is, other then Gnome.

The bottom line here, is that I am still talking about the original bug,
but it seems it has gotten worse.

My preference IS Gnome, and I hope these issues can be figured out. Any
help I can provide please let me know.

Bill

Bill wrote:
> It's still doing the same thing, except it's gotten worse. When you
> right click on the window frames, to try and move a window to a
> different desktop, it cycles through all the windows on both
> desktops. I had a workaround, I could minimize the window to the task
> bar and could right click it there and move the window to another
> desktop, but now it won't do that.
>
>
> Sebastien Bacher wrote:
>> your new comment is not clear, list different bugs, doesn't reply to the
>> questions asked before, that's not the way to get the bug corrected
>>
>>
>
>

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

You might have replied to all the question, the bug description seems to be an enumeration of problems where a bug should be a short and clear description of one bug. The number of comments doesn't make it easy to have a quick understanding of what the problem is neither. Since we get hundred of bugs a week we don't have 1 hour to spend on each one to try to understand what the bug is about. Have a quick description of what the bug is and easy steps to trigger would be nice

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

the "no window manager" might be bug #106350

[Bill Hand (fxwgbill-gmail)]

I apologize for the 'wordiness'... just trying to be sure everyone
understands what the problem is and what I have tried, to 'fix it', and
my observations. Kinda new at this.

Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> the "no window manager" might be bug #106350
>
>

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

That's alright, could you read bug #106350 and try to do what's described there. Does it fix your bug?

[Bill Hand (fxwgbill-gmail)]

That looks like the one where we completely deleted the .gnome2 and then
did a restart and no, it didn't fix it.

Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> That's alright, could you read bug #106350 and try to do what's
> described there. Does it fix your bug?
>
>

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

is that still an issue in hardy?

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

We are closing this bug report as it lacks the information, described in the previous comments, we need to investigate the problem further. However, please reopen it if you can give us the missing information and don't hesitate to submit bug reports in the future.