docbook-defguide: License is non-free (GFDL)

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Automatically imported from Debian bug report #280485 http://bugs.debian.org/280485

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Automatically imported from Debian bug report #280485 http://bugs.debian.org/280485

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Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0411091134350.3323@turing>
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 11:54:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Matt Brubeck <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: docbook-defguide: License is non-free (GFDL)

Package: docbook-defguide
Version: 2.0.8-1
Severity: serious
Tags: sarge, sid

The docbook-defguide package is in main, but it is licensed under
the GNU Free Documentation License 1.1 (or later), which is non-free.
The package includes one back cover text, no front cover texts, and no
invariant sections.

I believe this bug may be tagged sarge-ignore, but I will leave that to
the release managers.

[Matt Zimmerman (mdz)]

GFDL is OK for documentation in Ubuntu

[Frank Lichtenheld (djpig)]

# Automatically generated email from bts, devscripts version 2.8.5
tags 280485 - sid sarge
tags 280485 sarge-ignore

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 00:03:46 +0100
From: Frank Lichtenheld <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: tagging 280485, tagging 280485

# Automatically generated email from bts, devscripts version 2.8.5
tags 280485 - sid sarge
tags 280485 sarge-ignore

[Frank Lichtenheld (djpig)]

# Automatically generated email from bts, devscripts version 2.9.4
retitle 280485 [NONFREE-DOC:GFDL1.2olbc] docbook-defguide: License is non-free

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Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 17:22:18 +0200
From: Frank Lichtenheld <email address hidden>
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Subject: retitle 280485 to [NONFREE-DOC:GFDL1.2olbc] docbook-defguide: License is non-free

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retitle 280485 [NONFREE-DOC:GFDL1.2olbc] docbook-defguide: License is non-free

[Andrew Pollock (apollock)]

I'm closing this bug due to the GR outcome and the bug submitter's assertion
that there are no invariant sections.

[Andrew Pollock (apollock)]

# Automatically generated email from bts, devscripts version 2.9.11
reopen 280485

[Steve Langasek (vorlon)]

On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 02:29:18PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote:
> I'm closing this bug due to the GR outcome and the bug submitter's assertion
> that there are no invariant sections.

"The package includes one back cover text, [...]"

You reopened the bug already, but just so people who happen by the bug know
why -- back cover texts are also unmodifiable and not permitted in main.

Thanks,
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Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world.
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[Paul Wise (Debian) (pabs)]

Hi,

The Debian package of DocBook: The Definitive Guide is currently
orphaned and unmaintained. I'm considering maintaining it as I need to
consult it from time-to-time. While investigating the package I noticed
this release-critical bug against it:

http://bugs.debian.org/280485

This relates to the licencing of TDG and is an issue because a recent
general resolution of the Debian project ruled that works licenced under
the GFDL are free according to the standards of freedom Debian has set
for itself, provided they do not contain unmodifiable sections. We would
prefer to distribute TDG in the "free" section of the archive if
possible. The problem with unmodifiable sections is that they are
against the idea of free software (and free documentation) - that you
have the freedom to make any changes necessary or wanted and share them
with the world.

http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_001#outcome

Would it be possible for Norman Walsh and O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. to
grant permission for "DocBook: The Definitive Guide" to be distributed
without the back cover text? The reason is that back cover texts are
unmodifiable and irremovable. A statement from both copyright holders
giving permission to distribute TDG under the GFDL with no invariant
sections, front cover texts or back cover texts should be sufficient.
Alternatively, removing the text "; with the Back-Cover Texts being Back
Cover Text" from the licence text of the upcoming release would suffice.

http://docbook.org/tdg/en/html/dbcpyright.html

Thanks in advance for any assistance or clarifications you may be able
to offer.

--
bye,
pabs

http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

[Norm Walsh (ndw)]

I've sent a request along to the appropriate folks at O'Reilly. I have
mixed feelings about this request, but if O'Reilly agrees, I'll remove
the condition.

I'm sure there are larger issues associated with unmodifiable text in
the context of "free" documents, but it seems awfully pedantic in this
instance.

                                        Be seeing you,
                                          norm

--
Norman Walsh <email address hidden> | The only thing that makes life possible
http://nwalsh.com/ | is permanent, intolerable uncertainty;
                              | not knowing what comes next.--Ursula K.
                              | LeGuin

[Norm Walsh (ndw)]

O'Reilly Media has granted me permission to republish DocBook: The
Definitive Guide under the GFDL without the back cover clause. I
will make a new release as soon as I have time. Probably before
the end of September, 2006.

If you happen to be reading this after September and it still hasn't
been fixed at http://docbook.org/tdg/en, well, feel free to remind
me :-)

                                        Be seeing you,
                                          norm

--
Norman Walsh <email address hidden> | Everything should be made as simple as
http://nwalsh.com/ | possible, but no simpler.

[Norm Walsh (ndw)]

As of Version 2.0.17, _DocBook: The Definitive Guide_ is available
under the GNU FDL with no Cover-Text restrictions. You can find this
version now, or in a few minutes, as soon as rsync finishes, at

  http://docbook.org/tdg/

Share and enjoy! (And someone can close Debian bug #280485 too :-)

                                        Be seeing you,
                                          norm

--
Norman Walsh <email address hidden> | Unless one is a genius, it is best to
http://nwalsh.com/ | aim at being intelligible.--Anthony Hope

[Josh Triplett (joshtriplett)]

# Automatically generated email from bts, devscripts version 2.9.27
tags 280485 + fixed-upstream

[Daniel Leidert (dleidert-deactivatedaccount)]

# Automatically generated email from bts, devscripts version 2.10.11
tags 257715 + pending
tags 208031 + pending
tags 248364 + pending
tags 280740 + pending
tags 173710 + pending
tags 280485 + pending
tags 295579 + pending

[Daniel Leidert (dleidert-deactivatedaccount)]

Source: docbook-defguide
Source-Version: 2.0.17+svn7549-1

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
docbook-defguide, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

docbook-defguide_2.0.17+svn7549-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/d/docbook-defguide/docbook-defguide_2.0.17+svn7549-1.diff.gz
docbook-defguide_2.0.17+svn7549-1.dsc
  to pool/main/d/docbook-defguide/docbook-defguide_2.0.17+svn7549-1.dsc
docbook-defguide_2.0.17+svn7549-1_all.deb
  to pool/main/d/docbook-defguide/docbook-defguide_2.0.17+svn7549-1_all.deb
docbook-defguide_2.0.17+svn7549.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/d/docbook-defguide/docbook-defguide_2.0.17+svn7549.orig.tar.gz

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you
have further comments please address them to <email address hidden>,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Daniel Leidert (dale) <email address hidden> (supplier of updated docbook-defguide package)

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Format: 1.7
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:25:22 +0100
Source: docbook-defguide
Binary: docbook-defguide
Architecture: source all
Version: 2.0.17+svn7549-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Daniel Leidert (dale) <email address hidden>
Changed-By: Daniel Leidert (dale) <email address hidden>
Description:
 docbook-defguide - DocBook: The Definitive Guide - HTML version
Closes: 135296 173710 208031 248364 257715 280485 280740 295579
Changes:
 docbook-defguide (2.0.17+svn7549-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release 2.0.17 (finally closes: #257715).
     - Creates missing pages (closes: #208031).
     - Fixes several broken links (closes: #248364, #280740).
     - Drops printing glyphs via external URIs (closes: #173710).
     - Norman Walsh relicensed the TDG as of version 2.0.17 without the
       back-cover text clause (closes: #280485). Many thanks to you, Norm!
 .
   * buildtools/Makefile.incl: Added my own small and custom build system to
     not rely on upstreams one. This should also reduce the size of necessary
     changes to the build system.
   * buildtools/saxon.sh: Ditto.
 .
   * debian/compat: Update to newer compatibility level 5.
   * debian/control: Added Homepage field.
     (Maintainer): New maintainer (closes: #295579).
     (Standards-Version): Updated to latest 3.7.3.
     (Build-Depends, Build-Depends-Indep): Updated/adjusted.
     (Description): Updated.
   * debian/copyright: Updated. Added information about newly added source
     files (xml2po/entities/docbook-xml/sgml-data).
   * debian/docbook-defguide.doc-base (Abstract): Updated.
     (Section): Fixed to apply to latest menu spec.
   * debian/rules: Added get-orig-source target to retreive the source via SVN.
     Added dpatch infrastructure. Removed obsolete stuff and fixed the build
     system (cleanup).
     (install): Added .htac...

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