Comment 32 for bug 84958

Hi Ralf,
your message just now was very good, actually.

On 9/14/07, Ralf Nieuwenhuijsen <email address hidden> wrote:
> You are right dankegel. It shouldn't be like this. But it is _on topic_.
> The clutter of the wine-desktop-links is what this bug is about. I guess
> most developpers won't have the patience of jhansonxi to argue and would
> just put the bug on 'wont fix'. You don't have to unsubscribe. This is
> my last comment on this bug-report.
>
> I've tried making a case for a clean menu. But i never actually get the
> feeling my argument got accross. I keep getting technical explenations
> of stuff I already understand. Which to me seems completely irrelevant.
>
> Steps to reproduce:
> - install wine
> - installing firefox, java and windows-media-player on wine.
> - you end up with a [firefox launcher, a java configuration tool, a java update tool] in the wine menu
> - in the system -> confiugration menu you end up with a [a wine configuration tool, java configuration tool]
> - you already had a firefox link in the internet menu
>
> Now ask this theoretical user the following questions:
> - which java configuration tools configures which java and affects which browsers?
> - what is the difference between the two firefoxes?
> - why does a .wmv correctly open in applications -> tools -> Wine File Browser?
> - why does the same .wmv not correctly open when you open it from your home-folder?
> - if you go to applications -> system -> software uninstaller .. which of the two firefoxes do you uninstall?
> - if you go to applications -> add/remove .. which of the two firefoxes do you uninstall?
>
> Would the user be less confused if all wine stuff was in the same menu? I think so.
> And if you do not, you are free to just put it on 'wont fix'.
>
> But please don't come with techincal reasons, analogies with java or how wine is just a document-viewer.
> You also don't have to educate me about the technical details. I am quite aware of why it is, like it is. (I work as linux system administrator, and install ubuntu on about 30+ different workplaces of about 5 different clients of mine, not counting the servers).
>
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> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/84958
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